On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:29:39 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
<v6je02$1d97d$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>Attila wrote on 9/7/24 9:42 pm:
>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:31:34 -0700, "Andrew"
>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>
><Snip>
>
>>> If you knew otherwise, you would explain.
>>
>> If an explanation is required you would not understand.
>
>Or, maybe, YOU are hopeless at explaining an idea!!
>
>> If you understood no explanation would be necessary.
>
>WOW!! What Gobble-de-gook!! Have YOU got tickets on yourself!!
>
>"Believe ME! If you don't believe me, you are an imbecile!!"

Since you have clipped the origional information you left me
no way to respond. As you probably intended.

--

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Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy) and
the Green Raw Deal.

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Attila wrote on 10/07/2024 8:44 am:
> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:29:39 +1000, Daniel70
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <v6je02$1d97d$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>> Attila wrote on 9/7/24 9:42 pm:
>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:31:34 -0700, "Andrew"
>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>> If you knew otherwise, you would explain.
>>>
>>> If an explanation is required you would not understand.
>>
>> Or, maybe, YOU are hopeless at explaining an idea!!
>>
>>> If you understood no explanation would be necessary.
>>
>> WOW!! What Gobble-de-gook!! Have YOU got tickets on yourself!!
>>
>> "Believe ME! If you don't believe me, you are an imbecile!!"
>
> Since you have clipped the origional information you left me
> no way to respond. As you probably intended.
>
No, that was not my intent, cause I expect all users of UseNet to be
able to set up their Mail/News programs to display any newsgroups
messages in a THREADED Fashion .... so making it easy for find that
which has been snipped!!
--
Daniel

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:40:00 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
<v6l3b2$1p5ct$1@dont-email.me> wrote:

>Attila wrote on 10/07/2024 8:44 am:
>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:29:39 +1000, Daniel70
>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <v6je02$1d97d$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>> Attila wrote on 9/7/24 9:42 pm:
>>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:31:34 -0700, "Andrew"
>>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>>> If you knew otherwise, you would explain.
>>>>
>>>> If an explanation is required you would not understand.
>>>
>>> Or, maybe, YOU are hopeless at explaining an idea!!
>>>
>>>> If you understood no explanation would be necessary.
>>>
>>> WOW!! What Gobble-de-gook!! Have YOU got tickets on yourself!!
>>>
>>> "Believe ME! If you don't believe me, you are an imbecile!!"
>>
>> Since you have clipped the origional information you left me
>> no way to respond. As you probably intended.
>>
>No, that was not my intent, cause I expect all users of UseNet to be
>able to set up their Mail/News programs to display any newsgroups
>messages in a THREADED Fashion .... so making it easy for find that
>which has been snipped!!

It is easy for me to find but that does little for anyone
else who is following the thread.

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy) and
the Green Raw Deal.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

Attila wrote on 10/7/24 4:07 pm:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 14:40:00 +1000, Daniel70
> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <v6l3b2$1p5ct$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>> Attila wrote on 10/07/2024 8:44 am:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 23:29:39 +1000, Daniel70
>>> <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <v6je02$1d97d$1@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>> Attila wrote on 9/7/24 9:42 pm:
>>>>> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 05:31:34 -0700, "Andrew"
>>>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>>> If you knew otherwise, you would explain.
>>>>>
>>>>> If an explanation is required you would not understand.
>>>>
>>>> Or, maybe, YOU are hopeless at explaining an idea!!
>>>>
>>>>> If you understood no explanation would be necessary.
>>>>
>>>> WOW!! What Gobble-de-gook!! Have YOU got tickets on yourself!!
>>>>
>>>> "Believe ME! If you don't believe me, you are an imbecile!!"
>>>
>>> Since you have clipped the origional information you left me
>>> no way to respond. As you probably intended.
>>>
>> No, that was not my intent, cause I expect all users of UseNet to be
>> able to set up their Mail/News programs to display any newsgroups
>> messages in a THREADED Fashion .... so making it easy for find that
>> which has been snipped!!
>
> It is easy for me to find but that does little for anyone
> else who is following the thread.
>
*IF* they are "following the thread", they have already read what YOU or
I have typed. If they have not been following, they are probably not
interested in what has gone on before!
--
Daniel

Le 2024-06-29 à 23:04, Dawn Flood a écrit :
> On 6/29/2024 7:35 PM, Tyrone wrote:
>> On Jun 27, 2024 at 9:02:37 AM EDT, "Saros Cycle" <18@11.8> wrote:
>>
>>> But the earth is level and stationary, not a ball orbiting a burning
>>> ball of
>>> hydrogen and helium gas. All the heavenly bodies orbit Polaris
>>> exactly as your
>>> eyes show you. The heliocentric religion has bewitched your mind to
>>> deny what
>>> you see with your own eyes. Polaris is the center of the celestial
>>> sphere,
>>> around which all things orbit unchangingly for thousand of years.
>>> Polaris is
>>> not light years distant. It is close to the earth as are the other
>>> heavenly
>>> lights.
>>
>> What does it feel like to be insane?
>
> Many of them are not crazy:
>
> https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages/index.html
>
> Dawn
Maybe not crazy, but stupid and liar come to mind.

Le 2024-06-30 à 18:06, Dawn Flood a écrit :
> On 6/30/2024 8:08 AM, Tyrone wrote:
>> On Jun 29, 2024 at 11:04:12 PM EDT, "Dawn Flood"
>> <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/29/2024 7:35 PM, Tyrone wrote:
>>>> On Jun 27, 2024 at 9:02:37 AM EDT, "Saros Cycle" <18@11.8> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But the earth is level and stationary, not a ball orbiting a
>>>>> burning ball of
>>>>> hydrogen and helium gas. All the heavenly bodies orbit Polaris
>>>>> exactly as your
>>>>> eyes show you. The heliocentric religion has bewitched your mind to
>>>>> deny what
>>>>> you see with your own eyes. Polaris is the center of the celestial
>>>>> sphere,
>>>>> around which all things orbit unchangingly for thousand of years.
>>>>> Polaris is
>>>>> not light years distant. It is close to the earth as are the other
>>>>> heavenly
>>>>> lights.
>>>>
>>>> What does it feel like to be insane?
>>>
>>> Many of them are not crazy:
>>>
>>> https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages/index.html
>>
>> I'm not talking about hundreds/thousands of years ago.  Anyone who TODAY
>> thinks the "Earth is flat" is insane. The Sun is round. The moon is
>> round.
>> All of the planets are round (you can see them yourself in a telescope).
>> There are many photos of the round Earth.
>>
>> STILL clinging to "The Earth is flat" nonsense - in the face of tons of
>> evidence that it is, indeed, round - is the very definition of insane.
>>
>> Stars and planets are round for a reason. Gravity. Once an object gets
>> past a
>> certain size/mass, it WILL be round. Small asteroids/comets/meteors
>> and such
>> are irregularly shaped because the gravity of the body is not strong
>> enough to
>> round it out.
>>
>> Polaris is not the center of anything. Science is not a "religion".
>> Facts are
>> facts. You "Flat Earth" people are Kooktards. Conspiretards. IOW, insane.
>
> Yeah, I agree with you, of course, 100%!!
>
> But, if one wishes to be a Biblical literalist, then a flat, stationary
> Earth at the center of a 6-Day Creation is the most faithful reading of
> the Bible.
>
> Dawn
Given that NO part of the bible was ever put in writing LESS than 30
years after the death of the characters, the bible just can not be
accurate, and even less inherent.
Claiming that the bible is the word of god, when your ONLY source to
support that claim is the bible, is circular reasoning. That's a fallacy.
Claiming that the bible is the «unchanging word of god» is laughable
when you realize that it have been altered a lot and many times. Then,
there is the problem of the over 1000 modern versions that are available
right now.

Kualinar <kuakinar@videotron.ca> wrote in
news:v8qki3$ni1k$2@dont-email.me:

> Le 2024-06-30 à 18:06, Dawn Flood a écrit :
>> On 6/30/2024 8:08 AM, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Jun 29, 2024 at 11:04:12 PM EDT, "Dawn Flood"
>>> <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/29/2024 7:35 PM, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2024 at 9:02:37 AM EDT, "Saros Cycle" <18@11.8>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the earth is level and stationary, not a ball orbiting a
>>>>>> burning ball of
>>>>>> hydrogen and helium gas. All the heavenly bodies orbit Polaris
>>>>>> exactly as your
>>>>>> eyes show you. The heliocentric religion has bewitched your mind
>>>>>> to deny what
>>>>>> you see with your own eyes. Polaris is the center of the
>>>>>> celestial sphere,
>>>>>> around which all things orbit unchangingly for thousand of years.
>>>>>> Polaris is
>>>>>> not light years distant. It is close to the earth as are the
>>>>>> other heavenly
>>>>>> lights.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does it feel like to be insane?
>>>>
>>>> Many of them are not crazy:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages
>>>> /index.html
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about hundreds/thousands of years ago.  Anyone who
>>> TODAY thinks the "Earth is flat" is insane. The Sun is round. The
>>> moon is round.
>>> All of the planets are round (you can see them yourself in a
>>> telescope). There are many photos of the round Earth.
>>>
>>> STILL clinging to "The Earth is flat" nonsense - in the face of tons
>>> of evidence that it is, indeed, round - is the very definition of
>>> insane.
>>>
>>> Stars and planets are round for a reason. Gravity. Once an object
>>> gets past a
>>> certain size/mass, it WILL be round. Small asteroids/comets/meteors
>>> and such
>>> are irregularly shaped because the gravity of the body is not strong
>>> enough to
>>> round it out.
>>>
>>> Polaris is not the center of anything. Science is not a "religion".
>>> Facts are
>>> facts. You "Flat Earth" people are Kooktards. Conspiretards. IOW,
>>> insane.
>>
>> Yeah, I agree with you, of course, 100%!!
>>
>> But, if one wishes to be a Biblical literalist, then a flat,
>> stationary Earth at the center of a 6-Day Creation is the most
>> faithful reading of the Bible.
>>
>> Dawn
> Given that NO part of the bible was ever put in writing LESS than 30
> years after the death of the characters, the bible just can not be
> accurate, and even less inherent.
> Claiming that the bible is the word of god, when your ONLY source to
> support that claim is the bible, is circular reasoning. That's a
> fallacy. Claiming that the bible is the «unchanging word of god» is
> laughable when you realize that it have been altered a lot and many
> times. Then, there is the problem of the over 1000 modern versions
> that are available right now.
>

1) The Bible is the Word of God.

But how can you be sure?

2) Because the Bible is Infallible.

How do you know that?

3) Because the Bible says so.

How can we trust the Bible?

4) Because the Bible is the Word of God.

Dawn Flood wrote on 1/7/24 8:06 am:
> On 6/30/2024 8:08 AM, Tyrone wrote:
>> On Jun 29, 2024 at 11:04:12 PM EDT, "Dawn Flood"
>> <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/29/2024 7:35 PM, Tyrone wrote:
>>>> On Jun 27, 2024 at 9:02:37 AM EDT, "Saros Cycle" <18@11.8>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But the earth is level and stationary, not a ball orbiting a
>>>>> burning ball of hydrogen and helium gas. All the heavenly
>>>>> bodies orbit Polaris exactly as your eyes show you. The
>>>>> heliocentric religion has bewitched your mind to deny what
>>>>> you see with your own eyes. Polaris is the center of the
>>>>> celestial sphere, around which all things orbit unchangingly
>>>>> for thousand of years. Polaris is not light years distant. It
>>>>> is close to the earth as are the other heavenly lights.
>>>>
>>>> What does it feel like to be insane?
>>>
>>> Many of them are not crazy:
>>>
>>> https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages/index.html
>>>
>> I'm not talking about hundreds/thousands of years ago. Anyone who
>> TODAY thinks the "Earth is flat" is insane. The Sun is round. The
>> moon is round. All of the planets are round (you can see them
>> yourself in a telescope). There are many photos of the round
>> Earth.
>>
>> STILL clinging to "The Earth is flat" nonsense - in the face of
>> tons of evidence that it is, indeed, round - is the very definition
>> of insane.
>>
>> Stars and planets are round for a reason. Gravity. Once an object
>> gets past a certain size/mass, it WILL be round. Small
>> asteroids/comets/meteors and such are irregularly shaped because
>> the gravity of the body is not strong enough to round it out.
>>
>> Polaris is not the center of anything. Science is not a "religion".
>> Facts are facts. You "Flat Earth" people are Kooktards.
>> Conspiretards. IOW, insane.
>
> Yeah, I agree with you, of course, 100%!!
>
> But, if one wishes to be a Biblical literalist, then a flat,
> stationary Earth at the center of a 6-Day Creation is the most
> faithful reading of the Bible.
>
> Dawn

If "one wishes to be a Biblical literalist" then HOW does one explain
away Dinosaur Skeletons??
--
Daniel

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
news:v8slun$1gia7$1@dont-email.me:

> Dawn Flood wrote on 1/7/24 8:06 am:
>> On 6/30/2024 8:08 AM, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Jun 29, 2024 at 11:04:12 PM EDT, "Dawn Flood"
>>> <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/29/2024 7:35 PM, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2024 at 9:02:37 AM EDT, "Saros Cycle" <18@11.8>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But the earth is level and stationary, not a ball orbiting a
>>>>>> burning ball of hydrogen and helium gas. All the heavenly
>>>>>> bodies orbit Polaris exactly as your eyes show you. The
>>>>>> heliocentric religion has bewitched your mind to deny what
>>>>>> you see with your own eyes. Polaris is the center of the
>>>>>> celestial sphere, around which all things orbit unchangingly
>>>>>> for thousand of years. Polaris is not light years distant. It
>>>>>> is close to the earth as are the other heavenly lights.
>>>>>
>>>>> What does it feel like to be insane?
>>>>
>>>> Many of them are not crazy:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages
>>>> /index.html
>>>>
>>> I'm not talking about hundreds/thousands of years ago. Anyone who
>>> TODAY thinks the "Earth is flat" is insane. The Sun is round. The
>>> moon is round. All of the planets are round (you can see them
>>> yourself in a telescope). There are many photos of the round
>>> Earth.
>>>
>>> STILL clinging to "The Earth is flat" nonsense - in the face of
>>> tons of evidence that it is, indeed, round - is the very definition
>>> of insane.
>>>
>>> Stars and planets are round for a reason. Gravity. Once an object
>>> gets past a certain size/mass, it WILL be round. Small
>>> asteroids/comets/meteors and such are irregularly shaped because
>>> the gravity of the body is not strong enough to round it out.
>>>
>>> Polaris is not the center of anything. Science is not a "religion".
>>> Facts are facts. You "Flat Earth" people are Kooktards.
>>> Conspiretards. IOW, insane.
>>
>> Yeah, I agree with you, of course, 100%!!
>>
>> But, if one wishes to be a Biblical literalist, then a flat,
>> stationary Earth at the center of a 6-Day Creation is the most
>> faithful reading of the Bible.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> If "one wishes to be a Biblical literalist" then HOW does one explain
> away Dinosaur Skeletons??

Placed in the ground by the Devil
to lead us atray with godless evolution!

No, really, one creationist here
actually claimed that......

Mitchell Holman wrote on 7/08/2024 3:43 am:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:v8slun$1gia7$1@dont-email.me:
>> Dawn Flood wrote on 1/7/24 8:06 am:
>>> On 6/30/2024 8:08 AM, Tyrone wrote:
>>>> On Jun 29, 2024 at 11:04:12 PM EDT, "Dawn Flood"
>>>> <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/29/2024 7:35 PM, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2024 at 9:02:37 AM EDT, "Saros Cycle" <18@11.8>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the earth is level and stationary, not a ball orbiting a
>>>>>>> burning ball of hydrogen and helium gas. All the heavenly
>>>>>>> bodies orbit Polaris exactly as your eyes show you. The
>>>>>>> heliocentric religion has bewitched your mind to deny what
>>>>>>> you see with your own eyes. Polaris is the center of the
>>>>>>> celestial sphere, around which all things orbit unchangingly
>>>>>>> for thousand of years. Polaris is not light years distant. It
>>>>>>> is close to the earth as are the other heavenly lights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What does it feel like to be insane?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of them are not crazy:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cantab.net/users/michael.behrend/ebooks/PlaneTruth/pages
>>>>> /index.html
>>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking about hundreds/thousands of years ago. Anyone who
>>>> TODAY thinks the "Earth is flat" is insane. The Sun is round. The
>>>> moon is round. All of the planets are round (you can see them
>>>> yourself in a telescope). There are many photos of the round
>>>> Earth.
>>>>
>>>> STILL clinging to "The Earth is flat" nonsense - in the face of
>>>> tons of evidence that it is, indeed, round - is the very definition
>>>> of insane.
>>>>
>>>> Stars and planets are round for a reason. Gravity. Once an object
>>>> gets past a certain size/mass, it WILL be round. Small
>>>> asteroids/comets/meteors and such are irregularly shaped because
>>>> the gravity of the body is not strong enough to round it out.
>>>>
>>>> Polaris is not the center of anything. Science is not a "religion".
>>>> Facts are facts. You "Flat Earth" people are Kooktards.
>>>> Conspiretards. IOW, insane.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I agree with you, of course, 100%!!
>>>
>>> But, if one wishes to be a Biblical literalist, then a flat,
>>> stationary Earth at the center of a 6-Day Creation is the most
>>> faithful reading of the Bible.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> If "one wishes to be a Biblical literalist" then HOW does one explain
>> away Dinosaur Skeletons??
>
> Placed in the ground by the Devil to lead us atray with godless evolution!
>
> No, really, one creationist here actually claimed that......

Ah!! So NOT you! Good to know!! ;-P
--
Daniel