Just how racist is the MAGA movement? This survey measures it.
A Trump supporter holds a Confederate flag outside the Senate chamber after
rioters breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

By Jennifer Rubin
September 28, 2022

It has long been understood that the MAGA movement is heavily dependent on
White grievance and straight-up racism. (Hence Donald Trump�s refusal to
disavow racist groups and his statement that there were �very fine people
on both sides� in the violent clashes at the white-supremacist rally in
Charlottesville.)
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Now, we have numbers to prove it.

The connection between racism and the right-wing movement is apparent in a
new poll from the Public Religion Research Institute. The survey asked
respondents about 11 statements designed to probe views on racism. For
example: �White Americans today are not responsible for discrimination
against Black people in the past.� The pollsters then used their answers to
quantify a �structural racism index,� which provides a general score from
zero to 1 measuring a person�s attitudes on �white supremacy and racial
inequality, the impact of discrimination on African American economic
mobility, the treatment of African Americans in the criminal justice
system, general perceptions of race, and whether racism is still
significant problem today.� Higher scores indicate a more receptive
attitude to racist beliefs.

The results shouldn�t surprise anyone paying attention to the MAGA crowd�s
rhetoric and veneration of the Confederacy. �Among all Americans, the
median value on the structural racism index is 0.45, near the center of the
scale,� the poll found. �The median score on the structural racism index
for Republicans is 0.67, compared with 0.45 for independents and 0.27 for
Democrats.� Put differently, Republicans are much more likely to buy into
the notion that Whites are victims.

The poll also found that the religious group that makes up the core of
today�s GOP and MAGA movement has the highest structural racism measure
among the demographics it surveyed: �White evangelical Protestants have the
highest median score, at 0.64, while Latter-day Saints, white Catholics,
and white mainline Protestants each have a median of 0.55. By contrast,
religiously unaffiliated white Americans score 0.33.� This is true even
though Whites report far less discrimination toward them than racial
minorities do.

The survey also captured just how popular the �Lost Cause� to rewrite the
history of the Civil War and downplay or ignore the evil of slavery is on
the right: �Republicans overwhelmingly back efforts to preserve the legacy
of the Confederacy (85%), compared with less than half of independents
(46%) and only one in four Democrats (26%). The contrast between white
Republicans and white Democrats is stark. Nearly nine in 10 white
Republicans (87%), compared with 23% of white Democrats, support efforts to
preserve the legacy of the Confederacy.�

Americans who fully support reforming Confederate monuments have a much
lower structural racism index score, while those who oppose it have a much
higher score. The same is true when it comes to renaming schools honoring
individuals who supported slavery and racial discrimination or changing
racist mascots.

Those who want to keep Confederate monuments and offensive mascots in place
might deny that their views have anything to do with bigotry, but then
again, they often deny the legacy of racism and paint Whites as victims,
too. In general, MAGA forces have one goal when they amplify �replacement
theory� or fuss over corporations promoting inclusivity: to maximize White
anger and resentment.

Robert P. Jones, who leads PRRI, tells me, �While this result may seem
surprising or even shocking to many White Christians, it is because we do
not know our own history. If we take a clear-eyed look at our history, we
see a widespread, centuries-long Christian defense of white supremacy.� He
adds, �For example, every major Protestant Christian denomination split
over the issue of slavery in the Civil War, with Methodists, Episcopalians,
Presbyterians, and Baptists in the South all breaking fellowship with their
Northern brethren.� Given that history, Jones says, �it�s hardly a surprise
that a denial of systemic racism is a defining feature of White
evangelicalism today.�

The PRRI poll shows the MAGA movement has done a solid job convincing the
core of the GOP base that they are victims. And let�s be clear: An
aggrieved electoral minority that believes it has been victimized and is
ready to deploy violence is a serious threat to an inclusive democracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/28/racism-survey-prri-maga-
republicans/

Ryan wrote:
> A Trump supporter holds a Confederate flag outside the Senate chamber

Boo fucking hoo!

On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 12:56:28 -0000 (UTC), Ryan <X@Y.com> wrote:

The url you forgot:
<https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/28/racism-survey-prri-maga-republicans/>

#nevertrump

>Just how racist is the MAGA movement? This survey measures it.
>
>A Trump supporter holds a Confederate flag outside the Senate chamber after
>rioters breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
>
>By Jennifer Rubin
>September 28, 2022
>
>It has long been understood that the MAGA movement is heavily dependent on
>White grievance and straight-up racism. (Hence Donald Trump’s refusal to
>disavow racist groups and his statement that there were “very fine people
>on both sides” in the violent clashes at the white-supremacist rally in
>Charlottesville.)
>Sign up for the Prompt 2024 newsletter for opinions on the biggest
>questions in politics
>
>Now, we have numbers to prove it.
>
>The connection between racism and the right-wing movement is apparent in a
>new poll from the Public Religion Research Institute. The survey asked
>respondents about 11 statements designed to probe views on racism. For
>example: “White Americans today are not responsible for discrimination
>against Black people in the past.” The pollsters then used their answers to
>quantify a “structural racism index,” which provides a general score from
>zero to 1 measuring a person’s attitudes on “white supremacy and racial
>inequality, the impact of discrimination on African American economic
>mobility, the treatment of African Americans in the criminal justice
>system, general perceptions of race, and whether racism is still
>significant problem today.” Higher scores indicate a more receptive
>attitude to racist beliefs.
>
>The results shouldn’t surprise anyone paying attention to the MAGA crowd’s
>rhetoric and veneration of the Confederacy. “Among all Americans, the
>median value on the structural racism index is 0.45, near the center of the
>scale,” the poll found. “The median score on the structural racism index
>for Republicans is 0.67, compared with 0.45 for independents and 0.27 for
>Democrats.” Put differently, Republicans are much more likely to buy into
>the notion that Whites are victims.
>
>The poll also found that the religious group that makes up the core of
>today’s GOP and MAGA movement has the highest structural racism measure
>among the demographics it surveyed: “White evangelical Protestants have the
>highest median score, at 0.64, while Latter-day Saints, white Catholics,
>and white mainline Protestants each have a median of 0.55. By contrast,
>religiously unaffiliated white Americans score 0.33.” This is true even
>though Whites report far less discrimination toward them than racial
>minorities do.
>
>The survey also captured just how popular the “Lost Cause” to rewrite the
>history of the Civil War and downplay or ignore the evil of slavery is on
>the right: “Republicans overwhelmingly back efforts to preserve the legacy
>of the Confederacy (85%), compared with less than half of independents
>(46%) and only one in four Democrats (26%). The contrast between white
>Republicans and white Democrats is stark. Nearly nine in 10 white
>Republicans (87%), compared with 23% of white Democrats, support efforts to
>preserve the legacy of the Confederacy.”
>
>Americans who fully support reforming Confederate monuments have a much
>lower structural racism index score, while those who oppose it have a much
>higher score. The same is true when it comes to renaming schools honoring
>individuals who supported slavery and racial discrimination or changing
>racist mascots.
>
>Those who want to keep Confederate monuments and offensive mascots in place
>might deny that their views have anything to do with bigotry, but then
>again, they often deny the legacy of racism and paint Whites as victims,
>too. In general, MAGA forces have one goal when they amplify “replacement
>theory” or fuss over corporations promoting inclusivity: to maximize White
>anger and resentment.
>
>Robert P. Jones, who leads PRRI, tells me, “While this result may seem
>surprising or even shocking to many White Christians, it is because we do
>not know our own history. If we take a clear-eyed look at our history, we
>see a widespread, centuries-long Christian defense of white supremacy.” He
>adds, “For example, every major Protestant Christian denomination split
>over the issue of slavery in the Civil War, with Methodists, Episcopalians,
>Presbyterians, and Baptists in the South all breaking fellowship with their
>Northern brethren.” Given that history, Jones says, “it’s hardly a surprise
>that a denial of systemic racism is a defining feature of White
>evangelicalism today.”
>
>The PRRI poll shows the MAGA movement has done a solid job convincing the
>core of the GOP base that they are victims. And let’s be clear: An
>aggrieved electoral minority that believes it has been victimized and is
>ready to deploy violence is a serious threat to an inclusive democracy.
>
>
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/28/racism-survey-prri-maga-
>republicans/

Governor Swill wrote:
> The url you forgot:

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.