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* Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ LineDavid Hartung
+- Re: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ LineMitchell Holman
+* Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ?You Don?t Have to Vote Again? LineGovernor Swill
|+* Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ?You Don?t Have to Vote Again? LineMitchell Holman
||`* Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again LineDavid Hartung
|| +* Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again LineRudy Canoza
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|| `- Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again LineMitchell Holman
|`* Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again LineDavid Hartung
| `* Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again LineRudy Canoza
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  `- Re: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ LineMitchell Holman

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Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ Line
From: David Hartung
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On 8/1/24 14:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
> news:rDydnXFfoMWfNzb7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On 7/30/24 10:39, Lou Bricano wrote:
>>> Former President Donald J. Trump on Monday repeated his recent
>>> assertion that Christians will never have to vote again if they vote
>>> for him this November, brushing aside multiple requests to walk back
>>> or clarify the statement.
>>>
>>> Mr. Trump’s initial comments, to a group of Christian conservatives
>>> on Friday, were interpreted by many Democrats as evidence he would
>>> end elections. On Monday, Fox News’s Laura Ingraham urged him to
>>> rebut that framing, but he offered instead: “I said, vote for me,
>>> you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true.”
>>>
>>> Vice President Kamala Harris has criticized Mr. Trump as a threat to
>>> democracy. On Tuesday, she will make her first visit to Georgia since
>>> becoming the Democrats’ likely presidential nominee, with a rally
>>> tonight in Atlanta featuring the hip-hop star Megan Thee Stallion.
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/30/us/harris-trump-election
>>>
>>> There is nothing ambiguous about Trump's meaning. He and the
>>> Republiscums/QAnon intend to halt elections permanently. That's what
>>> he means.
>>
>> Go fly a kite. No one except unthinking leftists believe that is what
>> Trump meant. What makes that so funny, is that we know from history
>> that it is the let who wishes to deny us the right to a free and fair
>> election. People like you.
>>
>>
>
> Excuse me?

There is no excuse for you and the idiocy you spew.

> The GOP has been on the warpath
> against elections for years, from
> piurging voter rolls to denying
> mail in ballots and absentee voting
> and reducing voting hour and days.

A claim which you have never been able to support.

Subject: Re: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ Line
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David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in news:k3OdnRQIN_7
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> On 8/1/24 14:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>> news:rDydnXFfoMWfNzb7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 7/30/24 10:39, Lou Bricano wrote:
>>>> Former President Donald J. Trump on Monday repeated his recent
>>>> assertion that Christians will never have to vote again if they vote
>>>> for him this November, brushing aside multiple requests to walk back
>>>> or clarify the statement.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Trump’s initial comments, to a group of Christian
conservatives
>>>> on Friday, were interpreted by many Democrats as evidence he would
>>>> end elections. On Monday, Fox News’s Laura Ingraham urged him to
>>>> rebut that framing, but he offered instead: “I said, vote for me,
>>>> you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true.”
>>>>
>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris has criticized Mr. Trump as a threat to
>>>> democracy. On Tuesday, she will make her first visit to Georgia
since
>>>> becoming the Democrats’ likely presidential nominee, with a rally
>>>> tonight in Atlanta featuring the hip-hop star Megan Thee Stallion.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/30/us/harris-trump-election
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing ambiguous about Trump's meaning. He and the
>>>> Republiscums/QAnon intend to halt elections permanently. That's what
>>>> he means.
>>>
>>> Go fly a kite. No one except unthinking leftists believe that is what
>>> Trump meant. What makes that so funny, is that we know from history
>>> that it is the let who wishes to deny us the right to a free and fair
>>> election. People like you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Excuse me?
>
> There is no excuse for you and the idiocy you spew.
>
>> The GOP has been on the warpath
>> against elections for years, from
>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>
> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>
>

Eligible voters are being swept up
in conservative activists' efforts
to purge voter rolls
Dec 4 2023
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eligible-voters-swept-up-conservative-
activists-purge-voter-rolls/

Republicans push to restrict mail-in
voting ahead of U.S. November midterms
September 9, 2022
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republicans-push-restrict-mail-in-
voting-ahead-us-november-midterms-2022-09-09/

Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ?You Don?t Have to Vote Again? Line
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On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:

>
>> The GOP has been on the warpath
>> against elections for years, from
>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>
>A claim which you have never been able to support.

That claim has been supported many times by many people. You can't accept that though,
because returning to the days of only propertied white men having the vote is what you
want.

#nevertrump

I'm not supposed to be here tonight ...
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vSAgF7ZbG_A>

Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ?You Don?t Have to Vote Again? Line
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Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ???You Don???t Have to Vote Again??? Line
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Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2n7qajlisj9617cpd80toglmbb5rq87iop@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> The GOP has been on the warpath
>>> against elections for years, from
>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>
>>A claim which you have never been able to support.
>
> That claim has been supported many times by many people. You can't
> accept that though, because returning to the days of only propertied
> white men having the vote is what you want.
>

Hartung dares to accuse others
of not supporting claims.

Oh, the irony...........

"For your claim to be truye, you
need evidence."
David Hartung, Aug 20, 2021
https://tinyurl.com/44zhdew5

vs........

"You don't have to believe my claim,
and I don't have to prove it."
David Hartung, Oct 24 2023
https://tinyurl.com/9kren8aw

Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ Line
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On 8/2/2024 5:17 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 8/1/24 14:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>> news:rDydnXFfoMWfNzb7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>
>>> On 7/30/24 10:39, Lou Bricano wrote:
>>>> Former President Donald J. Trump on Monday repeated his recent
>>>> assertion that Christians will never have to vote again if they vote
>>>> for him this November, brushing aside multiple requests to walk back
>>>> or clarify the statement.
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Trump’s initial comments, to a group of Christian conservatives
>>>> on Friday, were interpreted by many Democrats as evidence he would
>>>> end elections. On Monday, Fox News’s Laura Ingraham urged him to
>>>> rebut that framing, but he offered instead: “I said, vote for me,
>>>> you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true.”
>>>>
>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris has criticized Mr. Trump as a threat to
>>>> democracy. On Tuesday, she will make her first visit to Georgia since
>>>> becoming the Democrats’ likely presidential nominee, with a rally
>>>> tonight in Atlanta featuring the hip-hop star Megan Thee Stallion.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/30/us/harris-trump-election
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing ambiguous about Trump's meaning. He and the
>>>> Republiscums/QAnon intend to halt elections permanently. That's what
>>>> he means.
>>>
>>> Go fly a kite. No one except unthinking leftists believe that is what
>>> Trump meant. What makes that so funny, is that we know from history
>>> that it is the let who wishes to deny us the right to a free and fair
>>> election. People like you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>      Excuse me?
>
> There is no excuse for you and the idiocy you spew.
>
>>      The GOP has been on the warpath
>> against elections for years, from
>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>
> A claim which you have never been able to support.

It has been fully supported, with numerous citations showing Republiscums/QAnon,
including Trump, *admitting* to engaging in voter suppression.

Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ Line
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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> *admitting* to engaging

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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In article <b0arO.33793$89y.15295@fx18.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
says...
>
> On 8/2/2024 5:17 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> > On 8/1/24 14:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
> >> news:rDydnXFfoMWfNzb7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
> >>
> >>> On 7/30/24 10:39, Lou Bricano wrote:
> >>>> Former President Donald J. Trump on Monday repeated his recent
> >>>> assertion that Christians will never have to vote again if they vote
> >>>> for him this November, brushing aside multiple requests to walk back
> >>>> or clarify the statement.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mr. Trump?s initial comments, to a group of Christian conservatives
> >>>> on Friday, were interpreted by many Democrats as evidence he would
> >>>> end elections. On Monday, Fox News?s Laura Ingraham urged him to
> >>>> rebut that framing, but he offered instead: ?I said, vote for me,
> >>>> you?re not going to have to do it ever again. It?s true.?
> >>>>
> >>>> Vice President Kamala Harris has criticized Mr. Trump as a threat to
> >>>> democracy. On Tuesday, she will make her first visit to Georgia since
> >>>> becoming the Democrats? likely presidential nominee, with a rally
> >>>> tonight in Atlanta featuring the hip-hop star Megan Thee Stallion.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/30/us/harris-trump-election
> >>>>
> >>>> There is nothing ambiguous about Trump's meaning. He and the
> >>>> Republiscums/QAnon intend to halt elections permanently. That's what
> >>>> he means.
> >>>
> >>> Go fly a kite. No one except unthinking leftists believe that is what
> >>> Trump meant. What makes that so funny, is that we know from history
> >>> that it is the let who wishes to deny us the right to a free and fair
> >>> election. People like you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>      Excuse me?
> >
> > There is no excuse for you and the idiocy you spew.
> >
> >>      The GOP has been on the warpath
> >> against elections for years, from
> >> piurging voter rolls to denying
> >> mail in ballots and absentee voting
> >> and reducing voting hour and days.
> >
> > A claim which you have never been able to support.
>
> It has been fully supported, with numerous citations showing Republiscums/QAnon,
> including Trump, *admitting* to engaging in voter suppression.

None supported by you like always.

Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again Line
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On 8/2/24 13:02, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> The GOP has been on the warpath
>>> against elections for years, from
>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>
>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>
> That claim has been supported many times by many people. You can't accept that though,
> because returning to the days of only propertied white men having the vote is what you
> want.

Dream on.

Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again Line
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On 8/2/24 13:15, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:2n7qajlisj9617cpd80toglmbb5rq87iop@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> The GOP has been on the warpath
>>>> against elections for years, from
>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>>
>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>>
>> That claim has been supported many times by many people. You can't
>> accept that though, because returning to the days of only propertied
>> white men having the vote is what you want.
>>
>
>
> Hartung dares to accuse others
> of not supporting claims.

As Rudy would say, an admission of defeat from Holman.

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On 8/2/24 13:59, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> On 8/2/2024 5:17 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 8/1/24 14:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>>> news:rDydnXFfoMWfNzb7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> On 7/30/24 10:39, Lou Bricano wrote:
>>>>> Former President Donald J. Trump on Monday repeated his recent
>>>>> assertion that Christians will never have to vote again if they vote
>>>>> for him this November, brushing aside multiple requests to walk back
>>>>> or clarify the statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Trump’s initial comments, to a group of Christian conservatives
>>>>> on Friday, were interpreted by many Democrats as evidence he would
>>>>> end elections. On Monday, Fox News’s Laura Ingraham urged him to
>>>>> rebut that framing, but he offered instead: “I said, vote for me,
>>>>> you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris has criticized Mr. Trump as a threat to
>>>>> democracy. On Tuesday, she will make her first visit to Georgia since
>>>>> becoming the Democrats’ likely presidential nominee, with a rally
>>>>> tonight in Atlanta featuring the hip-hop star Megan Thee Stallion.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/30/us/harris-trump-election
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing ambiguous about Trump's meaning. He and the
>>>>> Republiscums/QAnon intend to halt elections permanently. That's what
>>>>> he means.
>>>>
>>>> Go fly a kite. No one except unthinking leftists believe that is what
>>>> Trump meant. What makes that so funny, is that we know from history
>>>> that it is the let who wishes to deny us the right to a free and fair
>>>> election. People like you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>      Excuse me?
>>
>> There is no excuse for you and the idiocy you spew.
>>
>>>      The GOP has been on the warpath
>>> against elections for years, from
>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>
>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>
> It has been fully supported, with numerous citations showing
> Republiscums/QAnon, including Trump, *admitting* to engaging in voter
> suppression.

Never supported.

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On 8/2/2024 2:11 PM, David Hartung, modern day Pharisee, bullshitted:
> On 8/2/24 13:02, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>       The GOP has been on the warpath
>>>> against elections for years, from
>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>>
>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>>
>> That claim has been supported many times by many people.  You can't accept
>> that though,
>> because returning to the days of only propertied white men having the vote is
>> what you
>> want.
>
> Dream on.

He is right, of course. You're a white supremacist, and in unguarded moments,
you admit it.

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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> you admit it.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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On 8/2/2024 2:13 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 8/2/24 13:15, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:2n7qajlisj9617cpd80toglmbb5rq87iop@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>       The GOP has been on the warpath
>>>>> against elections for years, from
>>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>>>
>>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>>>
>>> That claim has been supported many times by many people.  You can't
>>> accept that though, because returning to the days of only propertied
>>> white men having the vote is what you want.
>>>
>>
>>
>>       Hartung dares to accuse others
>> of not supporting claims.
>
> As Rudy would say, an admission of defeat from Holman.

No, it isn't. He's right — you virtually never even *attempt* to support your
claims, and even when you do make some lame, futile attempt at it, you always fail.

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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> you always fail.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ Line
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On 8/2/2024 2:16 PM, David Hartung, modern day Pharisee, lied:

> On 8/2/24 13:59, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/2/2024 5:17 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 8/1/24 14:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>>>> news:rDydnXFfoMWfNzb7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/30/24 10:39, Lou Bricano wrote:
>>>>>> Former President Donald J. Trump on Monday repeated his recent
>>>>>> assertion that Christians will never have to vote again if they vote
>>>>>> for him this November, brushing aside multiple requests to walk back
>>>>>> or clarify the statement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr. Trump’s initial comments, to a group of Christian conservatives
>>>>>> on Friday, were interpreted by many Democrats as evidence he would
>>>>>> end elections. On Monday, Fox News’s Laura Ingraham urged him to
>>>>>> rebut that framing, but he offered instead: “I said, vote for me,
>>>>>> you’re not going to have to do it ever again. It’s true.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris has criticized Mr. Trump as a threat to
>>>>>> democracy. On Tuesday, she will make her first visit to Georgia since
>>>>>> becoming the Democrats’ likely presidential nominee, with a rally
>>>>>> tonight in Atlanta featuring the hip-hop star Megan Thee Stallion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/30/us/harris-trump-election
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is nothing ambiguous about Trump's meaning. He and the
>>>>>> Republiscums/QAnon intend to halt elections permanently. That's what
>>>>>> he means.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go fly a kite. No one except unthinking leftists believe that is what
>>>>> Trump meant. What makes that so funny, is that we know from history
>>>>> that it is the let who wishes to deny us the right to a free and fair
>>>>> election. People like you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Excuse me?
>>>
>>> There is no excuse for you and the idiocy you spew.
>>>
>>>>      The GOP has been on the warpath
>>>> against elections for years, from
>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>>
>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>>
>> It has been fully supported, with numerous citations showing
>> Republiscums/QAnon, including Trump, *admitting* to engaging in voter
>> suppression.
>
> Never supported.

Numerous times. I'll do it again in a little while, after I dig my earlier
conclusive proof out of my sent messages folder. As I instructed you then, the
Republiscums/QAnon not only engage in voter suppression, they often *admit* it.

Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From ‘You Don’t Have to Vote Again’ Line
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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> they often *admit* it.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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Subject: Re: Trump Declines to Back Away From You Dont Have to Vote Again Line
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David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:QxycnSHbO6B91jD7nZ2dnZfqn_YAAAAA@giganews.com:

> On 8/2/24 13:15, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:2n7qajlisj9617cpd80toglmbb5rq87iop@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The GOP has been on the warpath
>>>>> against elections for years, from
>>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>>>
>>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>>>
>>> That claim has been supported many times by many people. You can't
>>> accept that though, because returning to the days of only propertied
>>> white men having the vote is what you want.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hartung dares to accuse others
>> of not supporting claims.
>
> As Rudy would say, an admission of defeat from Holman.
>

Oh dear you deleted your quotes on the subject.

Here are some more you can delete.

"When are you going to support your assertion
with somethign other than your opinion?"
David Hartung, July 29 2019
https://tinyurl.com/yyjrs3ya

vs...........

"I "must" prove nothing. You may choose to
believe what I post, or not to believe it,
that is your choice"
David Hartung, Oct 30 2014

+

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David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:QxycnSDbO6BY0TD7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On 8/2/24 13:59, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> On 8/2/2024 5:17 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 8/1/24 14:28, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>>>> news:rDydnXFfoMWfNzb7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/30/24 10:39, Lou Bricano wrote:
>>>>>> Former President Donald J. Trump on Monday repeated his recent
>>>>>> assertion that Christians will never have to vote again if they
>>>>>> vote for him this November, brushing aside multiple requests to
>>>>>> walk back or clarify the statement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr. Trump’s initial comments, to a group of Christian
>>>>>> conservatives on Friday, were interpreted by many Democrats as
>>>>>> evidence he would end elections. On Monday, Fox News’s Laura
>>>>>> Ingraham urged him to rebut that framing, but he offered instead:
>>>>>> “I said, vote for me, you’re not going to have to do it ever
>>>>>> again. It’s true.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris has criticized Mr. Trump as a threat
>>>>>> to democracy. On Tuesday, she will make her first visit to
>>>>>> Georgia since becoming the Democrats’ likely presidential
>>>>>> nominee, with a rally tonight in Atlanta featuring the hip-hop
>>>>>> star Megan Thee Stallion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/30/us/harris-trump-election
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is nothing ambiguous about Trump's meaning. He and the
>>>>>> Republiscums/QAnon intend to halt elections permanently. That's
>>>>>> what he means.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go fly a kite. No one except unthinking leftists believe that is
>>>>> what Trump meant. What makes that so funny, is that we know from
>>>>> history that it is the let who wishes to deny us the right to a
>>>>> free and fair election. People like you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>      Excuse me?
>>>
>>> There is no excuse for you and the idiocy you spew.
>>>
>>>>      The GOP has been on the warpath
>>>> against elections for years, from
>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>>
>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>>
>> It has been fully supported, with numerous citations showing
>> Republiscums/QAnon, including Trump, *admitting* to engaging in voter
>> suppression.
>
> Never supported.

Like every claim you post.

"Assisted suicide is not a problem
until the government required doctors
to assist even when it violates their
morals"
David Hartung, unproven claim, 12/9/2023
No such requirement ever existed.
https://tinyurl.com/yy4h2yxa

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In article <XnsB1C3855023F53629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:66ae5ab0$0$1895509$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <kIcrO.3113$yEia.1522@fx34.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 8/2/2024 2:13 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> >> > On 8/2/24 13:15, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> >> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:2n7qajlisj9617cpd80toglmbb5rq87iop@4ax.com:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung
> >> >>> <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>       The GOP has been on the warpath
> >> >>>>> against elections for years, from
> >> >>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
> >> >>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
> >> >>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That claim has been supported many times by many people.  You
> >> >>> can't accept that though, because returning to the days of only
> >> >>> propertied white men having the vote is what you want.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>       Hartung dares to accuse others
> >> >> of not supporting claims.
> >> >
> >> > As Rudy would say, an admission of defeat from Holman.
> >>
> >> No, it isn't. He's right ? you virtually never even *attempt* to
> >> support your claims, and even when you do make some lame, futile
> >> attempt at it, you
> > always fail.
> >
> >
> > You haven't proved one thing you have stated.
> >
>
> Et tu, Brute'
>
>
> "Demorats mostly claim to be catholic"
> "Skeeter", 4/16/2023
> https://tinyurl.com/2jeczj57

How cute. He's slurping Rudy now.

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On 8/4/2024 6:39 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <pttrO.28293$ewT2.23009@fx09.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 8/3/2024 9:28 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <kIcrO.3113$yEia.1522@fx34.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 8/2/2024 2:13 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 8/2/24 13:15, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:2n7qajlisj9617cpd80toglmbb5rq87iop@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 07:17:38 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       The GOP has been on the warpath
>>>>>>>>> against elections for years, from
>>>>>>>>> piurging voter rolls to denying
>>>>>>>>> mail in ballots and absentee voting
>>>>>>>>> and reducing voting hour and days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A claim which you have never been able to support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That claim has been supported many times by many people.  You can't
>>>>>>> accept that though, because returning to the days of only propertied
>>>>>>> white men having the vote is what you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Hartung dares to accuse others
>>>>>> of not supporting claims.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Rudy would say, an admission of defeat from Holman.
>>>>
>>>> No, it isn't. He's right ? you virtually never even *attempt* to support your
>>>> claims, and even when you do make some lame, futile attempt at it, you
>>>> always fail.
>>>
>>> You haven't proved one thing you have stated.
>>
>> I support every statement I make.
>
> I can repeat one claim you make over and over yet refuse to back up.

I support every statement I make. You can't support any of yours.

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Michael A Terrell wrote:
> I support every statement

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
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threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
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candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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