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Subject: Why Atheists Exist
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"One becomes an atheist when they do not
want God in their life, not because there is
no evidence for God."

~ Self-evident axiom

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Dawn Flood
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Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 23:06 UTC
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From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com (Dawn Flood)
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On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life, not
> because there is no evidence for God."
>
>                   ~ Self-evident axiom
>

"Like, wow!" Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a Rock",
to be sure!

Dawn

P.S. And, your evidence is? Oh, wait, I know the answer! "Everything!!"

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Michael Christ
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Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 23:31 UTC
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life, not
>> because there is no evidence for God."
>>
>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>
>
> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a Rock",
> to be sure!
>
> Dawn
>
> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!  "Everything!!"
>
You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the problem?

Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?

Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Dawn Flood
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Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 23:45 UTC
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On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life, not
>>> because there is no evidence for God."
>>>
>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>
>>
>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a Rock",
>> to be sure!
>>
>> Dawn
>>
>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>> "Everything!!"
>>
> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the
> problem?
>
> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>
> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>

It was a good day today, Michael! The weather here is nice (which meant
"skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.

I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an atheist,
my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever, in eternal,
endless bliss." But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so, I am forced to
live in the real World and not waste the few precious years of my life
chasing a fantasy that is manifestly false. The problem with religion
is that it takes a bad situation and makes it even worse.

Dawn

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Michael Christ
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Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 23:52 UTC
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From: michaelmclean2021@outlook.com (Michael Christ)
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On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life, not
>>>> because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>
>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>> "Everything!!"
>>>
>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the
>> problem?
>>
>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>
>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>
>
> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which meant
> "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>
> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an atheist,
> my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever, in eternal,
> endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so, I am forced to
> live in the real World and not waste the few precious years of my life
> chasing a fantasy that is manifestly false.  The problem with religion
> is that it takes a bad situation and makes it even worse.
>
> Dawn

Life is not a bad situation.

I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything, Sweetie-pie,
but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there is nothing that can
bring itself into being by itself.

That is just common sense, and you are not using it.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Dawn Flood
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 00:41 UTC
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On 5/8/2024 6:52 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life,
>>>>> not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>
>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>
>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>
>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>
>>
>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which
>> meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>
>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever, in
>> eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so, I am
>> forced to live in the real World and not waste the few precious years
>> of my life chasing a fantasy that is manifestly false.  The problem
>> with religion is that it takes a bad situation and makes it even worse.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Life is not a bad situation.
>
> I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything, Sweetie-pie,
> but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there is nothing that can
> bring itself into being by itself.
>
> That is just common sense, and you are not using it.
>

Sure, "common sense" informed Aristotle that heavier objects fall faster
than lighter ones and that our World stood motionless at the Center of
the Universe.

Dawn

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Michael Christ
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On 9/05/2024 10:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/2024 6:52 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life,
>>>>>> not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>>
>>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>>
>>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which
>>> meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>>
>>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever, in
>>> eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so, I am
>>> forced to live in the real World and not waste the few precious years
>>> of my life chasing a fantasy that is manifestly false.  The problem
>>> with religion is that it takes a bad situation and makes it even worse.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> Life is not a bad situation.
>>
>> I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything, Sweetie-pie,
>> but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there is nothing that
>> can bring itself into being by itself.
>>
>> That is just common sense, and you are not using it.
>>
>
> Sure, "common sense" informed Aristotle that heavier objects fall faster
> than lighter ones and that our World stood motionless at the Center of
> the Universe.
>
> Dawn

Irrelevant, superfluous flatus, Sweetpoop.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."


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On Wed, 8 May 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:

> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life, not
>>>> because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>
>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>
>>>
>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a Rock", to
>>> be sure!
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer! "Everything!!"
>>>
>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the
>> problem?
>>
>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>
>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>
>
> It was a good day today, Michael! The weather here is nice (which meant
> "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>
> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an atheist, my
> greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever, in eternal, endless
> bliss." But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so, I am forced to live in the
> real World and not waste the few precious years of my life chasing a fantasy
> that is manifestly false. The problem with religion is that it takes a bad
> situation and makes it even worse.
>
> Dawn

Have you considered cryogenically freezing yourself like all the
transhumanists? Consider me highly skeptical, but they reason (and I do
see their point) that better a fraction of a chance, than no chance at
eternal life.

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Michael Christ
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On 9/05/2024 7:23 pm, D wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life,
>>>>> not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>
>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>
>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the
>>> problem?
>>>
>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>
>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>
>>
>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which
>> meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>
>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever, in
>> eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so, I am
>> forced to live in the real World and not waste the few precious years
>> of my life chasing a fantasy that is manifestly false.  The problem
>> with religion is that it takes a bad situation and makes it even worse.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Have you considered cryogenically freezing yourself like all the
> transhumanists? Consider me highly skeptical, but they reason (and I do
> see their point) that better a fraction of a chance, than no chance at
> eternal life.

Very good, sort of, but you have qualified, only just, for not being a
dickhead with the D.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
From: Dawn Flood
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On 5/8/2024 10:17 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 9/05/2024 10:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/8/2024 6:52 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life,
>>>>>>> not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really the
>>>>> problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which
>>>> meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>>>
>>>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>>>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever,
>>>> in eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so,
>>>> I am forced to live in the real World and not waste the few precious
>>>> years of my life chasing a fantasy that is manifestly false.  The
>>>> problem with religion is that it takes a bad situation and makes it
>>>> even worse.
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> Life is not a bad situation.
>>>
>>> I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything, Sweetie-pie,
>>> but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there is nothing that
>>> can bring itself into being by itself.
>>>
>>> That is just common sense, and you are not using it.
>>>
>>
>> Sure, "common sense" informed Aristotle that heavier objects fall
>> faster than lighter ones and that our World stood motionless at the
>> Center of the Universe.
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Irrelevant, superfluous flatus, Sweetpoop.
>

It's an example of where one of the greatest minds of Antiquity was
simply wrong.

Dawn

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Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/2024 10:17 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 10:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2024 6:52 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life,
>>>>>>>> not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really
>>>>>> the problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which
>>>>> meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>>>>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever,
>>>>> in eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so,
>>>>> I am forced to live in the real World and not waste the few
>>>>> precious years of my life chasing a fantasy that is manifestly
>>>>> false.  The problem with religion is that it takes a bad situation
>>>>> and makes it even worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> Life is not a bad situation.
>>>>
>>>> I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything,
>>>> Sweetie-pie, but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there is
>>>> nothing that can bring itself into being by itself.
>>>>
>>>> That is just common sense, and you are not using it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, "common sense" informed Aristotle that heavier objects fall
>>> faster than lighter ones and that our World stood motionless at the
>>> Center of the Universe.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> Irrelevant, superfluous flatus, Sweetpoop.
>>
>
> It's an example of where one of the greatest minds of Antiquity was
> simply wrong.
>
> Dawn
>
or at least you see it that way

Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
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On 9/05/2024 9:17 pm, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/2024 10:17 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 10:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2024 6:52 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their life,
>>>>>>>> not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really
>>>>>> the problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which
>>>>> meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>>>>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever,
>>>>> in eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and so,
>>>>> I am forced to live in the real World and not waste the few
>>>>> precious years of my life chasing a fantasy that is manifestly
>>>>> false.  The problem with religion is that it takes a bad situation
>>>>> and makes it even worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> Life is not a bad situation.
>>>>
>>>> I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything,
>>>> Sweetie-pie, but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there is
>>>> nothing that can bring itself into being by itself.
>>>>
>>>> That is just common sense, and you are not using it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, "common sense" informed Aristotle that heavier objects fall
>>> faster than lighter ones and that our World stood motionless at the
>>> Center of the Universe.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>
>> Irrelevant, superfluous flatus, Sweetpoop.
>>
>
> It's an example of where one of the greatest minds of Antiquity was
> simply wrong.
>
> Dawn

Then you can't rely on the greatest minds of man, can you, Oh Great Mind.

But you can still use common sense, like don't put a gun to your head
and pull the trigger. However, I see that advice has come too late.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."


Click here to read the complete article
Subject: Re: Why Atheists Exist
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On 10/05/2024 8:33 am, % wrote:
> Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/8/2024 10:17 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>> On 9/05/2024 10:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:52 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their
>>>>>>>>> life, not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>>>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>>>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really
>>>>>>> the problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice (which
>>>>>> meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>>>>>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live forever,
>>>>>> in eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not real, and
>>>>>> so, I am forced to live in the real World and not waste the few
>>>>>> precious years of my life chasing a fantasy that is manifestly
>>>>>> false.  The problem with religion is that it takes a bad situation
>>>>>> and makes it even worse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>
>>>>> Life is not a bad situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything,
>>>>> Sweetie-pie, but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there
>>>>> is nothing that can bring itself into being by itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is just common sense, and you are not using it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, "common sense" informed Aristotle that heavier objects fall
>>>> faster than lighter ones and that our World stood motionless at the
>>>> Center of the Universe.
>>>>
>>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> Irrelevant, superfluous flatus, Sweetpoop.
>>>
>>
>> It's an example of where one of the greatest minds of Antiquity was
>> simply wrong.
>>
>> Dawn
>>
> or at least you see it that way

Hahahahaha...touché!

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."


Click here to read the complete article
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Michael Christ wrote:
> On 10/05/2024 8:33 am, % wrote:
>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 5/8/2024 10:17 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>> On 9/05/2024 10:41 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:52 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:45 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/8/2024 6:31 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/05/2024 9:06 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/8/2024 10:37 AM, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "One becomes an atheist when they do not want God in their
>>>>>>>>>> life, not because there is no evidence for God."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    ~ Self-evident axiom
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Like, wow!"  Not the hipness of "Taste the Feeling" or "Like a
>>>>>>>>> Rock", to be sure!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P.S.  And, your evidence is?  Oh, wait, I know the answer!
>>>>>>>>> "Everything!!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You seem to be a little rebellious today, Dawny, what is really
>>>>>>>> the problem?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who has offended and hurt you in your personal life?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's hear it and let's solve the problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was a good day today, Michael!  The weather here is nice
>>>>>>> (which meant "skirt day"), and I had fun walking my dog after work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've told you this before, and I will tell you it again, "As an
>>>>>>> atheist, my greatest, sincerest & fondest hope is to live
>>>>>>> forever, in eternal, endless bliss."  But, alas, Heaven is not
>>>>>>> real, and so, I am forced to live in the real World and not waste
>>>>>>> the few precious years of my life chasing a fantasy that is
>>>>>>> manifestly false.  The problem with religion is that it takes a
>>>>>>> bad situation and makes it even worse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Life is not a bad situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I live in the real world, and I am not chasing anything,
>>>>>> Sweetie-pie, but you are trying to flee the inevitable, for there
>>>>>> is nothing that can bring itself into being by itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is just common sense, and you are not using it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, "common sense" informed Aristotle that heavier objects fall
>>>>> faster than lighter ones and that our World stood motionless at the
>>>>> Center of the Universe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dawn
>>>>
>>>> Irrelevant, superfluous flatus, Sweetpoop.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's an example of where one of the greatest minds of Antiquity was
>>> simply wrong.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>>
>> or at least you see it that way
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> Hahahahaha...touché!
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> Michael Christ
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some snipers like to hit and run

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