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* Re: John 6: Eternal Sustenance in the Bread of LifeMichael Christ
`* Re: John 6: Eternal Sustenance in the Bread of LifeDawn Flood
 `- Re: John 6: Eternal Sustenance in the Bread of LifeMichael Christ

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Subject: Re: John 6: Eternal Sustenance in the Bread of Life
From: Michael Christ
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On 9/05/2024 5:49 am, ChristRose wrote:
> John 6: The Bread of Life Revealed
>
> Context
>
> John 6 emphasizes Jesus as the Bread of
> Life, offering eternal sustenance and
> life through His words and works. This
> theme extends from the previous miracle
> narratives, illustrating His divine
> authority, and leads into the discourse
> on His identity and mission, reinforcing
> the Gospel's overall focus on revealing
> Jesus as the source of eternal life.
>
> Natural Divisions
>
> 1. The Feeding of the Five Thousand
> (John 6:1-15)
>
> This division demonstrates Jesus'
> miraculous provision, symbolizing His
> ability to meet not only physical needs
> but also spiritual hunger. Jesus'
> feeding of the multitude foreshadows His
> greater offering: Himself as the living
> bread. In 1 Corinthians 10:3-4, Paul
> refers to Christ as the spiritual food
> that sustains believers.
>
> 2. Jesus Walks on Water (John 6:16-21)
>
> Here, Jesus' dominion over nature
> confirms His divine nature. This act
> strengthens the disciples' faith,
> pointing to His control over all
> circumstances. Ephesians 1:22
> illustrates that Christ's lordship over
> all things is for the church's benefit,
> reinforcing His role as the sustainer
> and protector of His people.
>
> 3. The Bread of Life Discourse (John
> 6:22-59)
>
> Jesus explains that He is the Bread of
> Life, essential for eternal life. This
> teaching challenges His listeners to
> look beyond physical sustenance to
> spiritual nourishment that only He can
> provide. This division aligns with
> Ephesians 2:8-9, where Paul emphasizes
> salvation as a gift received through
> faith in Christ, not by works.
>
> 4. The Disciples’ Reaction and Peter’s
> Confession (John 6:60-71)
>
> This section reveals varying responses
> to Jesus' teachings, highlighting the
> disciples' commitment to Him as the Holy
> One of God, recognizing His words as the
> source of eternal life. In Romans
> 10:9-10, Paul confirms that confessing
> Jesus as Lord and believing in His
> resurrection are key to salvation.
>
> Attitudes to Possess
>
> 1. Trust in Jesus’ Provision (John
> 6:1-15)
>
> Believers should trust in Jesus to meet
> all their needs, both physical and
> spiritual. Philippians 4:19 assures that
> God will supply every need according to
> His riches in glory in Christ Jesus.
>
> 2. Confidence in Jesus’ Sovereignty
> (John 6:16-21)
>
> Believers should rest in the knowledge
> that Jesus has authority over all
> creation. Colossians 1:17 asserts that
> in Him all things hold together,
> emphasizing His control and sovereign
> power.
>
> 3. Desire for Spiritual Sustenance (John
> 6:22-59)
>
> Believers should hunger for the
> spiritual food Jesus offers, which
> sustains unto eternal life. Hebrews 5:14
> encourages mature believers to seek
> solid spiritual food, which aids in
> discerning good from evil.
>
> Actions to Take
>
> 1. Seek Jesus First (John 6:1-15)
>
> Believers are called to seek Jesus as
> the primary source of their sustenance
> and fulfillment. Matthew 6:33 advises
> seeking first the kingdom of God and His
> righteousness, promising that all these
> things will be added unto them.
>
> 2. Trust in Christ's Power (John
> 6:16-21)
>
> Believers should confidently trust in
> Christ's power to guide and protect them
> through life's storms. 2 Corinthians
> 12:9 highlights Christ's sufficiency in
> all circumstances, particularly in
> weakness.
>
> 3. Abide in Christ’s Words (John
> 6:22-59)
>
> Believers must deeply engage with Jesus'
> teachings, letting His words dwell in
> them richly. Colossians 3:16 encourages
> letting the word of Christ dwell in
> believers richly, teaching and
> admonishing one another in wisdom.
>
> Word of exhortation for the believer
>
> As followers of Christ, let us
> continually seek Him as our essential
> nourishment and sustenance. May we trust
> fully in His sovereignty and provision,
> embracing His teachings as the
> foundation of our lives. Let us remain
> steadfast in our commitment to Him,
> knowing that He is the true Bread of
> Life, offering us eternal sustenance and
> fulfillment.
>
> Invitation for the unbeliever
>
> If you are seeking truth and
> fulfillment, look to Jesus Christ, who
> offers Himself as the Bread of Life.
> Through His death and resurrection, He
> has made provided a substitutionary
> atonement for your sin, which meets the
> righteous demands of God. This provision
> for your eternal life, will satisfy the
> deepest hunger of your soul. Trust in
> Him today, and embrace the life that He
> alone can offer.

It is a pity, then, that you sin against Him, WhoreRosie.

And it bothers you that I include other newsgroups? Just wait, for in
the end all will see what you do.

Michael Christ

>
>
> --
> Have you heard the good news Christ died
> for our sins (†), and God raised Him
> from the dead?
>
> That Christ died for our sins shows
> we're sinners who deserve the death
> penalty. That God raised Him from the
> dead shows Christ's death satisfied
> God's righteous demands against our sin
> (Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
> God can now remain just, while forgiving
> you of your sins, and saving you from
> eternal damnation.

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."


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Subject: Re: John 6: Eternal Sustenance in the Bread of Life
From: Dawn Flood
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On 5/8/2024 5:23 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
> On 9/05/2024 5:49 am, ChristRose wrote:
>> John 6: The Bread of Life Revealed
>>
>> Context
>>
>> John 6 emphasizes Jesus as the Bread of
>> Life, offering eternal sustenance and
>> life through His words and works. This
>> theme extends from the previous miracle
>> narratives, illustrating His divine
>> authority, and leads into the discourse
>> on His identity and mission, reinforcing
>> the Gospel's overall focus on revealing
>> Jesus as the source of eternal life.
>>
>> Natural Divisions
>>
>> 1. The Feeding of the Five Thousand
>> (John 6:1-15)
>>
>> This division demonstrates Jesus'
>> miraculous provision, symbolizing His
>> ability to meet not only physical needs
>> but also spiritual hunger. Jesus'
>> feeding of the multitude foreshadows His
>> greater offering: Himself as the living
>> bread. In 1 Corinthians 10:3-4, Paul
>> refers to Christ as the spiritual food
>> that sustains believers.
>>
>> 2. Jesus Walks on Water (John 6:16-21)
>>
>> Here, Jesus' dominion over nature
>> confirms His divine nature. This act
>> strengthens the disciples' faith,
>> pointing to His control over all
>> circumstances. Ephesians 1:22
>> illustrates that Christ's lordship over
>> all things is for the church's benefit,
>> reinforcing His role as the sustainer
>> and protector of His people.
>>
>> 3. The Bread of Life Discourse (John
>> 6:22-59)
>>
>> Jesus explains that He is the Bread of
>> Life, essential for eternal life. This
>> teaching challenges His listeners to
>> look beyond physical sustenance to
>> spiritual nourishment that only He can
>> provide. This division aligns with
>> Ephesians 2:8-9, where Paul emphasizes
>> salvation as a gift received through
>> faith in Christ, not by works.
>>
>> 4. The Disciples’ Reaction and Peter’s
>> Confession (John 6:60-71)
>>
>> This section reveals varying responses
>> to Jesus' teachings, highlighting the
>> disciples' commitment to Him as the Holy
>> One of God, recognizing His words as the
>> source of eternal life. In Romans
>> 10:9-10, Paul confirms that confessing
>> Jesus as Lord and believing in His
>> resurrection are key to salvation.
>>
>> Attitudes to Possess
>>
>> 1. Trust in Jesus’ Provision (John
>> 6:1-15)
>>
>> Believers should trust in Jesus to meet
>> all their needs, both physical and
>> spiritual. Philippians 4:19 assures that
>> God will supply every need according to
>> His riches in glory in Christ Jesus.
>>
>> 2. Confidence in Jesus’ Sovereignty
>> (John 6:16-21)
>>
>> Believers should rest in the knowledge
>> that Jesus has authority over all
>> creation. Colossians 1:17 asserts that
>> in Him all things hold together,
>> emphasizing His control and sovereign
>> power.
>>
>> 3. Desire for Spiritual Sustenance (John
>> 6:22-59)
>>
>> Believers should hunger for the
>> spiritual food Jesus offers, which
>> sustains unto eternal life. Hebrews 5:14
>> encourages mature believers to seek
>> solid spiritual food, which aids in
>> discerning good from evil.
>>
>> Actions to Take
>>
>> 1. Seek Jesus First (John 6:1-15)
>>
>> Believers are called to seek Jesus as
>> the primary source of their sustenance
>> and fulfillment. Matthew 6:33 advises
>> seeking first the kingdom of God and His
>> righteousness, promising that all these
>> things will be added unto them.
>>
>> 2. Trust in Christ's Power (John
>> 6:16-21)
>>
>> Believers should confidently trust in
>> Christ's power to guide and protect them
>> through life's storms. 2 Corinthians
>> 12:9 highlights Christ's sufficiency in
>> all circumstances, particularly in
>> weakness.
>>
>> 3. Abide in Christ’s Words (John
>> 6:22-59)
>>
>> Believers must deeply engage with Jesus'
>> teachings, letting His words dwell in
>> them richly. Colossians 3:16 encourages
>> letting the word of Christ dwell in
>> believers richly, teaching and
>> admonishing one another in wisdom.
>>
>> Word of exhortation for the believer
>>
>> As followers of Christ, let us
>> continually seek Him as our essential
>> nourishment and sustenance. May we trust
>> fully in His sovereignty and provision,
>> embracing His teachings as the
>> foundation of our lives. Let us remain
>> steadfast in our commitment to Him,
>> knowing that He is the true Bread of
>> Life, offering us eternal sustenance and
>> fulfillment.
>>
>> Invitation for the unbeliever
>>
>> If you are seeking truth and
>> fulfillment, look to Jesus Christ, who
>> offers Himself as the Bread of Life.
>> Through His death and resurrection, He
>> has made provided a substitutionary
>> atonement for your sin, which meets the
>> righteous demands of God. This provision
>> for your eternal life, will satisfy the
>> deepest hunger of your soul. Trust in
>> Him today, and embrace the life that He
>> alone can offer.
>
> It is a pity, then, that you sin against Him, WhoreRosie.
>
> And it bothers you that I include other newsgroups? Just wait, for in
> the end all will see what you do.
>

Michael,

I don't believe that the Gospel of John contains any sayings of the
historical Jesus, whom I regard as a first century nut anyways. What is
the point of posting this crap to alt.atheism?

Dawn

Subject: Re: John 6: Eternal Sustenance in the Bread of Life
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On 9/05/2024 9:02 am, Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/8/2024 5:23 PM, Michael Christ wrote:
>> On 9/05/2024 5:49 am, ChristRose wrote:
>>> John 6: The Bread of Life Revealed
>>>
>>> Context
>>>
>>> John 6 emphasizes Jesus as the Bread of
>>> Life, offering eternal sustenance and
>>> life through His words and works. This
>>> theme extends from the previous miracle
>>> narratives, illustrating His divine
>>> authority, and leads into the discourse
>>> on His identity and mission, reinforcing
>>> the Gospel's overall focus on revealing
>>> Jesus as the source of eternal life.
>>>
>>> Natural Divisions
>>>
>>> 1. The Feeding of the Five Thousand
>>> (John 6:1-15)
>>>
>>> This division demonstrates Jesus'
>>> miraculous provision, symbolizing His
>>> ability to meet not only physical needs
>>> but also spiritual hunger. Jesus'
>>> feeding of the multitude foreshadows His
>>> greater offering: Himself as the living
>>> bread. In 1 Corinthians 10:3-4, Paul
>>> refers to Christ as the spiritual food
>>> that sustains believers.
>>>
>>> 2. Jesus Walks on Water (John 6:16-21)
>>>
>>> Here, Jesus' dominion over nature
>>> confirms His divine nature. This act
>>> strengthens the disciples' faith,
>>> pointing to His control over all
>>> circumstances. Ephesians 1:22
>>> illustrates that Christ's lordship over
>>> all things is for the church's benefit,
>>> reinforcing His role as the sustainer
>>> and protector of His people.
>>>
>>> 3. The Bread of Life Discourse (John
>>> 6:22-59)
>>>
>>> Jesus explains that He is the Bread of
>>> Life, essential for eternal life. This
>>> teaching challenges His listeners to
>>> look beyond physical sustenance to
>>> spiritual nourishment that only He can
>>> provide. This division aligns with
>>> Ephesians 2:8-9, where Paul emphasizes
>>> salvation as a gift received through
>>> faith in Christ, not by works.
>>>
>>> 4. The Disciples’ Reaction and Peter’s
>>> Confession (John 6:60-71)
>>>
>>> This section reveals varying responses
>>> to Jesus' teachings, highlighting the
>>> disciples' commitment to Him as the Holy
>>> One of God, recognizing His words as the
>>> source of eternal life. In Romans
>>> 10:9-10, Paul confirms that confessing
>>> Jesus as Lord and believing in His
>>> resurrection are key to salvation.
>>>
>>> Attitudes to Possess
>>>
>>> 1. Trust in Jesus’ Provision (John
>>> 6:1-15)
>>>
>>> Believers should trust in Jesus to meet
>>> all their needs, both physical and
>>> spiritual. Philippians 4:19 assures that
>>> God will supply every need according to
>>> His riches in glory in Christ Jesus.
>>>
>>> 2. Confidence in Jesus’ Sovereignty
>>> (John 6:16-21)
>>>
>>> Believers should rest in the knowledge
>>> that Jesus has authority over all
>>> creation. Colossians 1:17 asserts that
>>> in Him all things hold together,
>>> emphasizing His control and sovereign
>>> power.
>>>
>>> 3. Desire for Spiritual Sustenance (John
>>> 6:22-59)
>>>
>>> Believers should hunger for the
>>> spiritual food Jesus offers, which
>>> sustains unto eternal life. Hebrews 5:14
>>> encourages mature believers to seek
>>> solid spiritual food, which aids in
>>> discerning good from evil.
>>>
>>> Actions to Take
>>>
>>> 1. Seek Jesus First (John 6:1-15)
>>>
>>> Believers are called to seek Jesus as
>>> the primary source of their sustenance
>>> and fulfillment. Matthew 6:33 advises
>>> seeking first the kingdom of God and His
>>> righteousness, promising that all these
>>> things will be added unto them.
>>>
>>> 2. Trust in Christ's Power (John
>>> 6:16-21)
>>>
>>> Believers should confidently trust in
>>> Christ's power to guide and protect them
>>> through life's storms. 2 Corinthians
>>> 12:9 highlights Christ's sufficiency in
>>> all circumstances, particularly in
>>> weakness.
>>>
>>> 3. Abide in Christ’s Words (John
>>> 6:22-59)
>>>
>>> Believers must deeply engage with Jesus'
>>> teachings, letting His words dwell in
>>> them richly. Colossians 3:16 encourages
>>> letting the word of Christ dwell in
>>> believers richly, teaching and
>>> admonishing one another in wisdom.
>>>
>>> Word of exhortation for the believer
>>>
>>> As followers of Christ, let us
>>> continually seek Him as our essential
>>> nourishment and sustenance. May we trust
>>> fully in His sovereignty and provision,
>>> embracing His teachings as the
>>> foundation of our lives. Let us remain
>>> steadfast in our commitment to Him,
>>> knowing that He is the true Bread of
>>> Life, offering us eternal sustenance and
>>> fulfillment.
>>>
>>> Invitation for the unbeliever
>>>
>>> If you are seeking truth and
>>> fulfillment, look to Jesus Christ, who
>>> offers Himself as the Bread of Life.
>>> Through His death and resurrection, He
>>> has made provided a substitutionary
>>> atonement for your sin, which meets the
>>> righteous demands of God. This provision
>>> for your eternal life, will satisfy the
>>> deepest hunger of your soul. Trust in
>>> Him today, and embrace the life that He
>>> alone can offer.
>>
>> It is a pity, then, that you sin against Him, WhoreRosie.
>>
>> And it bothers you that I include other newsgroups? Just wait, for in
>> the end all will see what you do.
>>
>
> Michael,
>
> I don't believe that the Gospel of John contains any sayings of the
> historical Jesus, whom I regard as a first century nut anyways.  What is
> the point of posting this crap to alt.atheism?
>
> Dawn

Because the Lord leads me to, My Little NutButter.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."


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