"Just One Question for Trump and Vance: What Is Wrong With You People?"

By Thomas L. Friedman
July 25, 2024

Ever since President Biden’s Sunday announcement that he would not seek
re-election, clearly because of age, I keep thinking about Donald Trump’s and JD
Vance’s contemptuous reactions to one of the most difficult personal decisions a
president has ever made, and what it says about their character.

“The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate badly,
then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can’t win, and decide
they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,” Trump wrote on social media
on Monday. He later added: “It’s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden’s going to
wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!”

Not to be out-lowballed by his boss, Vance wrote on social media: “Joe Biden has
been the worst President in my lifetime and Kamala Harris has been right there
with him every step of the way.”

All they had to say was: “President Biden served his country for five decades
and at this moment we thank him for that service. Tomorrow our campaign begins
against his replacement. Bring her on.’’

I can guarantee you that is what Biden would have said if the shoe were on the
other foot. Because he is not a bully.

Biden’s good character shone through on Wednesday night in his dignified,
country-before-self address at the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office. As I
watched and listened, I remembered a lunch I had with him in May 2022 in the
dining room next to the Oval Office. After we were done and he was walking me
past the Resolute Desk, I mentioned to him a reading-literacy project that my
wife, Ann, was working on that she thought might interest Dr. Jill Biden. The
president got totally excited about the idea and said, “Let’s call your wife.
What’s her number?’’

He then took a cellphone out of his pocket, dialed it and handed it to me.

“Honey,” I said, “I’ve got someone here who wants to talk to you.’’

“I’m in a meeting,” Ann replied. “I can’t talk now.’’

“No, no, you’re going to want to talk to him. It’s the president.”

Then I handed the phone back to Biden, who engaged her in a conversation about
reading and how much his wife was passionate about that subject, too.

Look, I’ve been to the rodeo — this is what smart politicians do. But there is
one difference with Joe Biden that I observed over the years: It’s how much he
authentically enjoyed it, how much he enjoyed talking to people outside his
bubble and giving them a chance to say, “I got to meet the president. He talked
to me!”

That sort of kindness came naturally to him. It brought him joy. And I have no
doubt that Trump’s and Vance’s venomous first reactions to Biden’s resignation
came naturally to them too.

I’m sure it brought them joy. But it sure left me wondering: What is wrong with
you people?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/22/opinion/trump-vance-biden-speech.html

What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.

On 25 Jul 2024, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> posted some
news:YZyoO.118057$oGQf.15352@fx10.iad:

> "Just One Question for Trump and Vance: What Is Wrong With You
> People?"
>
> By Thomas L. Friedman
> July 25, 2024
>
> Ever since President Biden’s Sunday announcement that he would not
> seek re-election, clearly because of age, I keep thinking

Nope, no thinking there.

[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> typed:

>
>“The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate badly,
>then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can’t win, and decide
>they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,” Trump wrote on social media
>on Monday. He later added: “It’s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden’s going to
>wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!”

Biden needs to be reminded every day that he's the President.

What an old, senile loser he is!

LOL!!!

In article <YZyoO.118057$oGQf.15352@fx10.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
says...
>
> "Just One Question for Trump and Vance: What Is Wrong With You People?"
>
> By Thomas L. Friedman
> July 25, 2024
>
> Ever since President Biden?s Sunday announcement that he would not seek
> re-election, clearly because of age, I keep thinking about Donald Trump?s and JD
> Vance?s contemptuous reactions to one of the most difficult personal decisions a
> president has ever made, and what it says about their character.

He was forced out. Tells me a lot about their character.
>
> ?The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate badly,
> then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can?t win, and decide
> they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,? Trump wrote on social media
> on Monday. He later added: ?It?s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden?s going to
> wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!?

Most likely true.
>
> Not to be out-lowballed by his boss, Vance wrote on social media: ?Joe Biden has
> been the worst President in my lifetime and Kamala Harris has been right there
> with him every step of the way.?

Truth there.
>
> All they had to say was: ?President Biden served his country for five decades
> and at this moment we thank him for that service. Tomorrow our campaign begins
> against his replacement. Bring her on.??

50 years and he has done nothing.
>
> I can guarantee you that is what Biden would have said if the shoe were on the
> other foot. Because he is not a bully.

"I don't work for you"
>
> Biden?s good character shone through on Wednesday night in his dignified,
> country-before-self address at the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office. As I
> watched and listened, I remembered a lunch I had with him in May 2022 in the
> dining room next to the Oval Office. After we were done and he was walking me
> past the Resolute Desk, I mentioned to him a reading-literacy project that my
> wife, Ann, was working on that she thought might interest Dr. Jill Biden. The
> president got totally excited about the idea and said, ?Let?s call your wife.
> What?s her number???

He was forced out. This is settled. They couldn't kill the competition
so now they will play the "female and race" card. So pathetic that sheep
like you and others are actually buying their shit.
>
> He then took a cellphone out of his pocket, dialed it and handed it to me.
>
> ?Honey,? I said, ?I?ve got someone here who wants to talk to you.??
>
> ?I?m in a meeting,? Ann replied. ?I can?t talk now.??
>
> ?No, no, you?re going to want to talk to him. It?s the president.?
>
> Then I handed the phone back to Biden, who engaged her in a conversation about
> reading and how much his wife was passionate about that subject, too.

And?
>
> Look, I?ve been to the rodeo ? this is what smart politicians do. But there is
> one difference with Joe Biden that I observed over the years: It?s how much he
> authentically enjoyed it, how much he enjoyed talking to people outside his
> bubble and giving them a chance to say, ?I got to meet the president. He talked
> to me!?

"I don't work for you"

"It's time to put a bulls eye on Trump"

If you didn't vote for me me you're not black enough"
> kooks? You vote Cameltoe you vote to destroy the USA which
> That sort of kindness came naturally to him. It brought him joy. And I have no
> doubt that Trump?s and Vance?s venomous first reactions to Biden?s resignation
> came naturally to them too.

You are saying The left has never been rude and insulted?

"It's time to put a bulls eye on Trump".
>
> I?m sure it brought them joy. But it sure left me wondering: What is wrong with
> you people?

Yea, why do you vote for these kooks? If you support Cameltoe you
support the downfall of the USA. Which is already a shithole.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/22/opinion/trump-vance-biden-speech.html
>
> What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
> shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.

Says the kook who supports the interior coup at the white house and the
attempted killing of Trump.

--

?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article <v7ug9f$2t6ak$1@news.mixmin.net>, none@sent.org says...
>
> On 25 Jul 2024, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> posted some
> news:YZyoO.118057$oGQf.15352@fx10.iad:
>
> > "Just One Question for Trump and Vance: What Is Wrong With You
> > People?"
> >
> > By Thomas L. Friedman
> > July 25, 2024
> >
> > Ever since President Biden�s Sunday announcement that he would not
> > seek re-election, clearly because of age, I keep thinking
>
> Nope, no thinking there.

If he can't handle running then he can't handle being in office now.
Changing the puppet doesn't change the puppeteer.

--

?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article
<hii5ajh654imv8vp96jn4vf20fjaqfdndj@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking
..dwarf.com>, klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com says...
>
> [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> typed:
>
> >
> >?The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate badly,
> >then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can?t win, and decide
> >they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,? Trump wrote on social media
> >on Monday. He later added: ?It?s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden?s going to
> >wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!?
>
> Biden needs to be reminded every day that he's the President.
>
> What an old, senile loser he is!
>
> LOL!!!

Yet the snowflakes <a term stole from us> now are saying Trump is senile
and old. The same shit Joe is accused of. They have nothing original.

--

?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

[Default] Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> typed:

>In article
><hii5ajh654imv8vp96jn4vf20fjaqfdndj@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking
>.dwarf.com>, klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com says...
>>
>> [Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> typed:
>>
>> >
>> >?The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate badly,
>> >then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can?t win, and decide
>> >they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,? Trump wrote on social media
>> >on Monday. He later added: ?It?s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden?s going to
>> >wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!?
>>
>> Biden needs to be reminded every day that he's the President.
>>
>> What an old, senile loser he is!
>>
>> LOL!!!
>
>Yet the snowflakes <a term stole from us> now are saying Trump is senile
>and old. The same shit Joe is accused of. They have nothing original.

Rudy's pissed off because the Republicans were telling him the truth
about Biden and Democrats were lying to him.

On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 15:59:26 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>"It's time to put a bulls eye on Trump".

We tried but it didn't work. Life is like a chicken dinner. If at first you don't
fricassee, fry, fry again.

#nevertrump
NP: Uncle Kracker - Me Again

In article <vi78ajdlt48tlp3rqor7o2i36k5v6t4ioi@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 15:59:26 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"It's time to put a bulls eye on Trump".
>
> We tried but it didn't work. Life is like a chicken dinner. If at first you don't
> fricassee, fry, fry again.
>
At least you admit it. You missed.

--

?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

On 7/25/24 15:56, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> "Just One Question for Trump and Vance: What Is Wrong With You People?"
>
> By Thomas L. Friedman
> July 25, 2024
>
> Ever since President Biden’s Sunday announcement that he would not seek
> re-election, clearly because of age, I keep thinking about Donald
> Trump’s and JD Vance’s contemptuous reactions to one of the most
> difficult personal decisions a president has ever made, and what it says
> about their character.
>
> “The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate
> badly, then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can’t
> win, and decide they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,”
> Trump wrote on social media on Monday. He later added: “It’s not over!
> Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden’s going to wake up and forget that he dropped
> out of the race today!”
>
> Not to be out-lowballed by his boss, Vance wrote on social media: “Joe
> Biden has been the worst President in my lifetime and Kamala Harris has
> been right there with him every step of the way.”
>
> All they had to say was: “President Biden served his country for five
> decades and at this moment we thank him for that service. Tomorrow our
> campaign begins against his replacement. Bring her on.’’
>
> I can guarantee you that is what Biden would have said if the shoe were
> on the other foot. Because he is not a bully.
>
> Biden’s good character shone through on Wednesday night in his
> dignified, country-before-self address at the Resolute Desk in the Oval
> Office. As I watched and listened, I remembered a lunch I had with him
> in May 2022 in the dining room next to the Oval Office. After we were
> done and he was walking me past the Resolute Desk, I mentioned to him a
> reading-literacy project that my wife, Ann, was working on that she
> thought might interest Dr. Jill Biden. The president got totally excited
> about the idea and said, “Let’s call your wife. What’s her number?’’
>
> He then took a cellphone out of his pocket, dialed it and handed it to me.
>
> “Honey,” I said, “I’ve got someone here who wants to talk to you.’’
>
> “I’m in a meeting,” Ann replied. “I can’t talk now.’’
>
> “No, no, you’re going to want to talk to him. It’s the president.”
>
> Then I handed the phone back to Biden, who engaged her in a conversation
> about reading and how much his wife was passionate about that subject, too.
>
> Look, I’ve been to the rodeo — this is what smart politicians do. But
> there is one difference with Joe Biden that I observed over the years:
> It’s how much he authentically enjoyed it, how much he enjoyed talking
> to people outside his bubble and giving them a chance to say, “I got to
> meet the president. He talked to me!”
>
> That sort of kindness came naturally to him. It brought him joy. And I
> have no doubt that Trump’s and Vance’s venomous first reactions to
> Biden’s resignation came naturally to them too.
>
> I’m sure it brought them joy. But it sure left me wondering: What is
> wrong with you people?
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/22/opinion/trump-vance-biden-speech.html
>
> What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
> shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.

You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly
without class. What makes it so ironic, is that even as a classless
boob, Trump is a better choices for President than Obama, Biden or Harris.

Governor Swill wrote:
> We tried but it didn't work.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell and
a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Default] David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> typed:

>> What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
>> shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.
>
>You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly
>without class. What makes it so ironic, is that even as a classless
>boob, Trump is a better choices for President than Obama, Biden or Harris.

Rudy is still angry that the GOP told him the truth about Biden's
dementia and the Democrats lied to him.

Rudy recognizes Biden's dementia traits in himself now, and is getting
scared.

On 7/26/2024 3:53 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 7/25/24 15:56, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> "Just One Question for Trump and Vance: What Is Wrong With You People?"
>>
>> By Thomas L. Friedman
>> July 25, 2024
>>
>> Ever since President Biden’s Sunday announcement that he would not seek
>> re-election, clearly because of age, I keep thinking about Donald Trump’s and
>> JD Vance’s contemptuous reactions to one of the most difficult personal
>> decisions a president has ever made, and what it says about their character.
>>
>> “The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate badly,
>> then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can’t win, and decide
>> they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,” Trump wrote on social
>> media on Monday. He later added: “It’s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden’s
>> going to wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!”
>>
>> Not to be out-lowballed by his boss, Vance wrote on social media: “Joe Biden
>> has been the worst President in my lifetime and Kamala Harris has been right
>> there with him every step of the way.”
>>
>> All they had to say was: “President Biden served his country for five decades
>> and at this moment we thank him for that service. Tomorrow our campaign begins
>> against his replacement. Bring her on.’’
>>
>> I can guarantee you that is what Biden would have said if the shoe were on the
>> other foot. Because he is not a bully.
>>
>> Biden’s good character shone through on Wednesday night in his dignified,
>> country-before-self address at the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office. As I
>> watched and listened, I remembered a lunch I had with him in May 2022 in the
>> dining room next to the Oval Office. After we were done and he was walking me
>> past the Resolute Desk, I mentioned to him a reading-literacy project that my
>> wife, Ann, was working on that she thought might interest Dr. Jill Biden. The
>> president got totally excited about the idea and said, “Let’s call your wife.
>> What’s her number?’’
>>
>> He then took a cellphone out of his pocket, dialed it and handed it to me.
>>
>> “Honey,” I said, “I’ve got someone here who wants to talk to you.’’
>>
>> “I’m in a meeting,” Ann replied. “I can’t talk now.’’
>>
>> “No, no, you’re going to want to talk to him. It’s the president.”
>>
>> Then I handed the phone back to Biden, who engaged her in a conversation about
>> reading and how much his wife was passionate about that subject, too.
>>
>> Look, I’ve been to the rodeo — this is what smart politicians do. But there is
>> one difference with Joe Biden that I observed over the years: It’s how much he
>> authentically enjoyed it, how much he enjoyed talking to people outside his
>> bubble and giving them a chance to say, “I got to meet the president. He
>> talked to me!”
>>
>> That sort of kindness came naturally to him. It brought him joy. And I have no
>> doubt that Trump’s and Vance’s venomous first reactions to Biden’s resignation
>> came naturally to them too.
>>
>> I’m sure it brought them joy. But it sure left me wondering: What is wrong
>> with you people?
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/22/opinion/trump-vance-biden-speech.html
>>
>> What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
>> shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.
>
> You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly without
> class.

When someone blabbers about "class," that is perfect proof that the person
blabbering has *no* class himself. Class is observed and noted, but it is
*never* spoken of by people who have any.

Trump and Vance are shitbags. They have *no* redeeming qualities. They are
filth. They are filth personally and publicly. Anyone who supports them in any
context is personally filth. You are racist neo-Nazi filth. You have *no*
redeeming qualities, period.

On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 17:53:08 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:

>You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly
>without class. What makes it so ironic, is that even as a classless
>boob, Trump is a better choices for President than Obama, Biden or Harris.

"The campaign has seen record-breaking fundraising and early polling bumps — a "honeymoon"
phase that former President Trump's campaign is hoping will soon end."
<https://www.axios.com/2024/07/26/harris-campaign-volunteers-swing-states>

Looks like the Dems got ground game cookin'.

#nevertrump
NP: Steely Dan - FM (sax solo)

Governor Swill wrote:
> Dems got ground game

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell and
a dozen other socks wrote:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

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PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:23:05 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote:

>[Default] David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> typed:
>
>>> What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
>>> shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.
>>
>>You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly
>>without class. What makes it so ironic, is that even as a classless
>>boob, Trump is a better choices for President than Obama, Biden or Harris.
>
>Rudy is still angry that the GOP told him the truth about Biden's
>dementia and the Democrats lied to him.
>
>Rudy recognizes Biden's dementia traits in himself now, and is getting
>scared.

His bankruptcy was dismissed with prejudice. Now he'll have to pay the settlements
against him.

#nevertrump
NP: Steely Dan - Here At The Western World

Rudy Canoza wrote:
> They are filth.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell and
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In article <Hl_oO.176025$ySE.1663@fx11.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
says...
>
> On 7/26/2024 3:53 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> > On 7/25/24 15:56, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >> "Just One Question for Trump and Vance: What Is Wrong With You People?"
> >>
> >> By Thomas L. Friedman
> >> July 25, 2024
> >>
> >> Ever since President Biden?s Sunday announcement that he would not seek
> >> re-election, clearly because of age, I keep thinking about Donald Trump?s and
> >> JD Vance?s contemptuous reactions to one of the most difficult personal
> >> decisions a president has ever made, and what it says about their character.
> >>
> >> ?The Democrats pick a candidate, Crooked Joe Biden, he loses the Debate badly,
> >> then panics, and makes mistake after mistake, is told he can?t win, and decide
> >> they will pick another candidate, probably Harris,? Trump wrote on social
> >> media on Monday. He later added: ?It?s not over! Tomorrow Crooked Joe Biden?s
> >> going to wake up and forget that he dropped out of the race today!?
> >>
> >> Not to be out-lowballed by his boss, Vance wrote on social media: ?Joe Biden
> >> has been the worst President in my lifetime and Kamala Harris has been right
> >> there with him every step of the way.?
> >>
> >> All they had to say was: ?President Biden served his country for five decades
> >> and at this moment we thank him for that service. Tomorrow our campaign begins
> >> against his replacement. Bring her on.??
> >>
> >> I can guarantee you that is what Biden would have said if the shoe were on the
> >> other foot. Because he is not a bully.
> >>
> >> Biden?s good character shone through on Wednesday night in his dignified,
> >> country-before-self address at the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office. As I
> >> watched and listened, I remembered a lunch I had with him in May 2022 in the
> >> dining room next to the Oval Office. After we were done and he was walking me
> >> past the Resolute Desk, I mentioned to him a reading-literacy project that my
> >> wife, Ann, was working on that she thought might interest Dr. Jill Biden. The
> >> president got totally excited about the idea and said, ?Let?s call your wife.
> >> What?s her number???
> >>
> >> He then took a cellphone out of his pocket, dialed it and handed it to me.
> >>
> >> ?Honey,? I said, ?I?ve got someone here who wants to talk to you.??
> >>
> >> ?I?m in a meeting,? Ann replied. ?I can?t talk now.??
> >>
> >> ?No, no, you?re going to want to talk to him. It?s the president.?
> >>
> >> Then I handed the phone back to Biden, who engaged her in a conversation about
> >> reading and how much his wife was passionate about that subject, too.
> >>
> >> Look, I?ve been to the rodeo ? this is what smart politicians do. But there is
> >> one difference with Joe Biden that I observed over the years: It?s how much he
> >> authentically enjoyed it, how much he enjoyed talking to people outside his
> >> bubble and giving them a chance to say, ?I got to meet the president. He
> >> talked to me!?
> >>
> >> That sort of kindness came naturally to him. It brought him joy. And I have no
> >> doubt that Trump?s and Vance?s venomous first reactions to Biden?s resignation
> >> came naturally to them too.
> >>
> >> I?m sure it brought them joy. But it sure left me wondering: What is wrong
> >> with you people?
> >>
> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/22/opinion/trump-vance-biden-speech.html
> >>
> >> What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
> >> shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.
> >
> > You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly without
> > class.
>
> When someone blabbers about "class," that is perfect proof that the person
> blabbering has *no* class himself. Class is observed and noted, but it is
> *never* spoken of by people who have any.
>
> Trump and Vance are shitbags. They have *no* redeeming qualities. They are
> filth. They are filth personally and publicly. Anyone who supports them in any
> context is personally filth. You are racist neo-Nazi filth. You have *no*
> redeeming qualities, period.

Thus proving you have no class.

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?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article <cg9aajppqa32hffv66lqg43vkifneht278@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 17:53:08 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>
> >You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly
> >without class. What makes it so ironic, is that even as a classless
> >boob, Trump is a better choices for President than Obama, Biden or Harris.
>
> "The campaign has seen record-breaking fundraising and early polling bumps ? a "honeymoon"
> phase that former President Trump's campaign is hoping will soon end."
> <https://www.axios.com/2024/07/26/harris-campaign-volunteers-swing-states>
>
> Looks like the Dems got ground game cookin'.
>
> #nevertrump
> NP: Steely Dan - FM (sax solo)

80% of that money was handed over from the Biden campaign.

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?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article <0l9aajpcs3jj7trcni7qghm9i748hf27kb@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 16:23:05 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >[Default] David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> typed:
> >
> >>> What's wrong with them is that they are shitbags. They have always been
> >>> shitbags. Everyone who supports them is a shitbag.
> >>
> >>You and Trump do have one thing in common. Both of you are utterly
> >>without class. What makes it so ironic, is that even as a classless
> >>boob, Trump is a better choices for President than Obama, Biden or Harris.
> >
> >Rudy is still angry that the GOP told him the truth about Biden's
> >dementia and the Democrats lied to him.
> >
> >Rudy recognizes Biden's dementia traits in himself now, and is getting
> >scared.
>
> His bankruptcy was dismissed with prejudice. Now he'll have to pay the settlements
> against him.

Who? Rudy? He has food stamps.

Trump could buy you and sell you.

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?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> typed:

>When someone blabbers about "class," that is perfect proof that the person
>blabbering has *no* class himself. Class is observed and noted, but it is
>*never* spoken of by people who have any.

LOL

Says the dwarf who tries to blabber about how superior he is, over and
over again.

LOL