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* Mike Johnson is a fucking moronRudy Canoza
+- Re: Mike Johnson is a fucking moronLil dwarf Rudey
+- Re: Mike Johnson is a fucking moronSkeeter
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Subject: Mike Johnson is a fucking moron
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"Fact-check: Is replacing Joe Biden on the ticket ‘unlawful’? Election law
experts say it’s not"

Even before President Joe Biden announced that he would relinquish his
presumptive 2024 presidential nomination and endorsed Vice President Kamala
Harris for the role, Republicans were laying the groundwork to argue that it is
too late for Democrats to replace their candidate.

On CNN’s "State of the Union" July 21 — just hours before Biden posted a letter
to social media saying he would drop out — House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La.,
said that the Democrats would have a "real hurdle" if they wanted to switch
candidates.

After 14 million people chose Biden during the primary, Johnson said, "It will
be very interesting to see if the so-called party of democracy, the Democrats,
go into a backroom somewhere and switch it out and put someone else at the top
of the ticket."

Johnson promised that the "legal hurdles in some of these states" would "be
litigated."

Johnson went even further on ABC News’ "This Week" the same day, saying he
thought it would be "unlawful" to replace Biden on the ticket should he drop out.

"It would be wrong and I think unlawful in accordance to some of these state
rules," Johnson said.

Former President Donald Trump’s supporters and some influencers took to social
media to make a similar argument. They said Democrats had "subverted democracy"
or that it is a sign Democrats will "cheat" or are cheating. Stephen Miller, a
former White House aide under Trump, posted on X that "Democrats just canceled
democracy. They threw out an entire primary and used donor extortion to do so.
Like a third world state."

Is the Democrats’ Biden switch-out unlawful? Experts say no — and that it’s well
supported by legal precedent.

Although Republicans are free to file legal challenges — and it’s impossible to
predict exactly how courts may rule on those challenges — election law experts
agreed that legal precedent sides with Democrats.

"There is no legal problem here whatsoever," Michael Gerhardt, University of
North Carolina constitutional law professor, told PolitiFact. "The timing does
not present any legal or constitutional problems. The Democratic nominee has not
become official yet, ballot deadlines in states have not been violated in any
way, and the rules of the convention are fully intact and in force."

Johnson’s office told PolitiFact that there could be potential legal challenges,
including in Ohio and Michigan. His office also said that some states have rules
that could require delegates to vote for their affiliated candidate. Legal
experts told us that those states include Arizona and Illinois.

But even if that’s so, it’s unclear that would prevent the Democrats from
approving the nominee of their choice at the convention, experts said.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/jul/22/is-replacing-biden-on-the-ticket-unlawful-as-speak/

Biden is out, Harris most likely is in, no laws or party rules have been
violated and *that is that*. Any Republiscum/QAnon legal challenges will fail.
The Republiscums/QAnon will devour huge shit sandwiches if they try.

Subject: Re: Mike Johnson is a fucking moron
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Rudy Canoza wrote:

> Biden is out, Harris most likely is in,

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell and
a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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In article <rfSoO.185777$xL%b.12905@fx17.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
says...
>
> "Fact-check: Is replacing Joe Biden on the ticket ?unlawful?? Election law
> experts say it?s not"
>
> Even before President Joe Biden announced that he would relinquish his
> presumptive 2024 presidential nomination and endorsed Vice President Kamala
> Harris for the role, Republicans were laying the groundwork to argue that it is
> too late for Democrats to replace their candidate.
>
> On CNN?s "State of the Union" July 21 ? just hours before Biden posted a letter
> to social media saying he would drop out ? House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La.,
> said that the Democrats would have a "real hurdle" if they wanted to switch
> candidates.
>
> After 14 million people chose Biden during the primary, Johnson said, "It will
> be very interesting to see if the so-called party of democracy, the Democrats,
> go into a backroom somewhere and switch it out and put someone else at the top
> of the ticket."
>
> Johnson promised that the "legal hurdles in some of these states" would "be
> litigated."
>
> Johnson went even further on ABC News? "This Week" the same day, saying he
> thought it would be "unlawful" to replace Biden on the ticket should he drop out.
>
> "It would be wrong and I think unlawful in accordance to some of these state
> rules," Johnson said.
>
> Former President Donald Trump?s supporters and some influencers took to social
> media to make a similar argument. They said Democrats had "subverted democracy"
> or that it is a sign Democrats will "cheat" or are cheating. Stephen Miller, a
> former White House aide under Trump, posted on X that "Democrats just canceled
> democracy. They threw out an entire primary and used donor extortion to do so.
> Like a third world state."
>
> Is the Democrats? Biden switch-out unlawful? Experts say no ? and that it?s well
> supported by legal precedent.
>
> Although Republicans are free to file legal challenges ? and it?s impossible to
> predict exactly how courts may rule on those challenges ? election law experts
> agreed that legal precedent sides with Democrats.
>
> "There is no legal problem here whatsoever," Michael Gerhardt, University of
> North Carolina constitutional law professor, told PolitiFact. "The timing does
> not present any legal or constitutional problems. The Democratic nominee has not
> become official yet, ballot deadlines in states have not been violated in any
> way, and the rules of the convention are fully intact and in force."
>
> Johnson?s office told PolitiFact that there could be potential legal challenges,
> including in Ohio and Michigan. His office also said that some states have rules
> that could require delegates to vote for their affiliated candidate. Legal
> experts told us that those states include Arizona and Illinois.
>
> But even if that?s so, it?s unclear that would prevent the Democrats from
> approving the nominee of their choice at the convention, experts said.
>
> https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/jul/22/is-replacing-biden-on-the-ticket-unlawful-as-speak/
>
> Biden is out, Harris most likely is in, no laws or party rules have been
> violated and *that is that*. Any Republiscum/QAnon legal challenges will fail.
> The Republiscums/QAnon will devour huge shit sandwiches if they try.

Cry some more. You know Joe would have lost.

--

?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

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On 7/26/2024 11:52 AM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
> "Fact-check: Is replacing Joe Biden on the ticket ‘unlawful’? Election
> law experts say it’s not"
>
> Even before President Joe Biden announced that he would relinquish his
> presumptive 2024 presidential nomination and endorsed Vice President
> Kamala Harris for the role, Republicans were laying the groundwork to
> argue that it is too late for Democrats to replace their candidate.

"Democrats may have only days after their convention to finalize their
nominee or else they risk being left off the ballot in key states,
risking key Electoral College votes and their ability to win the
presidency along with it. By early September, trying to put a new
presidential candidate on the ballot is no longer solely up to a
national party once state laws on ballot certification and ballot
vacancies go into effect."

Ball gets deflated, again.

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