On 18/07/2024 2:22 pm, Ted wrote:
> Baxter wrote:
>
>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>> news:v79fvt $20s4f$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 18/07/2024 12:57 am, Baxter wrote:
>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v77ta3$1o52d$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 17/07/2024 12:55 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Endless strife is what you're doing here. Why don't you fuck
>> off?
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't seem very nice. Why is it that I suffer you but you
>> can't
>>>>> rise up to offer the same to me? Again, there is that sinner
>>>>> religiosity spiritual activity again.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a very selfish cruel spirit.
>>>>>
>>>> Ah yes, religious fanatics just LOVE to PLAY the martyr.
>>>
>>> I don't think it is very nice that you would support a person
>>> unkindly telling another person to "fuck off," Baxter.
>>>
>>> It is very hurtful and uncaring, especially when my motives are
>>> only
>> for
>>> good.
>>
>> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>>>
>>> I think your helminth infestation has given you brain fog, Baxter.
>>> Please take the recommended course of fenbendazole and also clear
>>> the cancer in your mind.
>>>
>>> Lovingly yours,
>>>
>
>> Nah, you do what you claim I did - only you did it for real, and you
>> imagined that I insulted you.
>
>
> You really did insult him, Baxter. Stop lying.

I know I was insulted because I spilled some sult and I saw that as a
sure sign he had insalted me. I am even more insulted now because he
said he didn't insalt me.

Baxter has no sole! He doesn't care who he violates with his insaltation.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:stlf9jdppiovfughbeqq1u6dtj5n9fh3ie@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> do we agree that if Christians claim God is
>>>>> all-loving and all-powerful, they are wrong?
>>>>
>>>>No. The Bible explains why evil had to be
>>>>is temporarily permitted.
>>>
>>> The standard Christian explanation is that evil has to be allowed to
>>> show that Satan's ways are wrong, so that the rebellion against God
>>> fomented by Satan can be properly ended with fairness to everyone
>>> involved.
>>>
>>> There are two problems with this explanation:
>>>
>>> 1) It assumes human beings must be retards of the first magnitude.
>>> One *century* of evil should have been way more than necessary to
>>> achieve the goal of describing Satan accurately, not six *thousand*
>>> years. If God existed, it would be appropriate to say to him, "All
>>> right, all right, Satan = bad; we get it! Now be reasonable and end
>>> the evil!"
>>>
>>> 2) It fails to explain the *magnitude* of the evil involved. If God
>>> wanted to demonstrate that Satan was wrong, he didn't need to pull
>>> billions and billions of humans and animals into it. Just restrict
>>> the experiment to just Adam and Eve and a few select creatures, and
>>> use that for his lesson study.
>>___________________________________________________
>>
>>That is your reasoning from your limited perspective.
>>
>>But God has a much higher and different perspective
>>than yours.
>>
>>And you are foolish enough to think that you are
>>wiser that the living God who knows all things.
>>
>>"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
>> neither are your ways my ways, saith the
>> Lord.
>>
>>"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
>> so are my ways higher than your ways
>> and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>> ~ Isaiah 55:8-9
>
> Of course. You don't know the answer, so you just have to have faith.
> But my point was precisely that you *don't know* despite how many
> Christians act like they have actual answers intellectually to these
> kind of questions.

Since this has all been revealed to us in the Bible, you have
no excuse. Nevertheless you are free to make a fool of your
self, and to reject the salvation that is offered to you free of
charge.

On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 03:30:28 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<996mO.207495$mMba.187620@fx06.ams4> wrote:

>"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:stlf9jdppiovfughbeqq1u6dtj5n9fh3ie@4ax.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> do we agree that if Christians claim God is
>>>>>> all-loving and all-powerful, they are wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>>No. The Bible explains why evil had to be
>>>>>is temporarily permitted.
>>>>
>>>> The standard Christian explanation is that evil has to be allowed to
>>>> show that Satan's ways are wrong, so that the rebellion against God
>>>> fomented by Satan can be properly ended with fairness to everyone
>>>> involved.
>>>>
>>>> There are two problems with this explanation:
>>>>
>>>> 1) It assumes human beings must be retards of the first magnitude.
>>>> One *century* of evil should have been way more than necessary to
>>>> achieve the goal of describing Satan accurately, not six *thousand*
>>>> years. If God existed, it would be appropriate to say to him, "All
>>>> right, all right, Satan = bad; we get it! Now be reasonable and end
>>>> the evil!"
>>>>
>>>> 2) It fails to explain the *magnitude* of the evil involved. If God
>>>> wanted to demonstrate that Satan was wrong, he didn't need to pull
>>>> billions and billions of humans and animals into it. Just restrict
>>>> the experiment to just Adam and Eve and a few select creatures, and
>>>> use that for his lesson study.
>>>___________________________________________________
>>>
>>>That is your reasoning from your limited perspective.
>>>
>>>But God has a much higher and different perspective
>>>than yours.
>>>
>>>And you are foolish enough to think that you are
>>>wiser that the living God who knows all things.
>>>
>>>"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
>>> neither are your ways my ways, saith the
>>> Lord.
>>>
>>>"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
>>> so are my ways higher than your ways
>>> and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>>> ~ Isaiah 55:8-9
>>
>> Of course. You don't know the answer, so you just have to have faith.
>> But my point was precisely that you *don't know* despite how many
>> Christians act like they have actual answers intellectually to these
>> kind of questions.
>
>Since this has all been revealed to us in the Bible, you have
>no excuse. Nevertheless you are free to make a fool of your
>self, and to reject the salvation that is offered to you free of
>charge.

How about those of us who reject your silly superstition and
all of it's facets?

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy) and
the Green Raw Deal. Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

"Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in news:UL0mO.9223$iptd.3836@fx36.iad:

> Baxter wrote:
>
>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>> news:v79fvt $20s4f$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>> > On 18/07/2024 12:57 am, Baxter wrote:
>> >> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>> >> news:v77ta3$1o52d$1@dont-email.me:
>> >>
>> >>> On 17/07/2024 12:55 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> Endless strife is what you're doing here. Why don't you fuck
>> off?
>> > > >
>> >>> That doesn't seem very nice. Why is it that I suffer you but you
>> can't
>> >>> rise up to offer the same to me? Again, there is that sinner
>> >>> religiosity spiritual activity again.
>> > > >
>> >>> It is a very selfish cruel spirit.
>> > > >
>> >> Ah yes, religious fanatics just LOVE to PLAY the martyr.
>> >
>> > I don't think it is very nice that you would support a person
>> > unkindly telling another person to "fuck off," Baxter.
>> >
>> > It is very hurtful and uncaring, especially when my motives are
>> > only
>> for
>> > good.
>>
>> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>> >
>> > I think your helminth infestation has given you brain fog, Baxter.
>> > Please take the recommended course of fenbendazole and also clear
>> > the cancer in your mind.
>> >
>> > Lovingly yours,
>> >
>
>> Nah, you do what you claim I did - only you did it for real, and you
>> imagined that I insulted you.
>
>
> You really did insult him, Baxter. Stop lying.
>
>

I just said the truth and he imagined it an insult. But then
conservaturds are notorious snowflakes.

In article <v7baak$2farl$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in news:UL0mO.9223$iptd.3836@fx36.iad:
>
> > Baxter wrote:
> >
> >> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> >> news:v79fvt $20s4f$1@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >> > On 18/07/2024 12:57 am, Baxter wrote:
> >> >> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:v77ta3$1o52d$1@dont-email.me:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 17/07/2024 12:55 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>> Endless strife is what you're doing here. Why don't you fuck
> >> off?
> >> > > >
> >> >>> That doesn't seem very nice. Why is it that I suffer you but you
> >> can't
> >> >>> rise up to offer the same to me? Again, there is that sinner
> >> >>> religiosity spiritual activity again.
> >> > > >
> >> >>> It is a very selfish cruel spirit.
> >> > > >
> >> >> Ah yes, religious fanatics just LOVE to PLAY the martyr.
> >> >
> >> > I don't think it is very nice that you would support a person
> >> > unkindly telling another person to "fuck off," Baxter.
> >> >
> >> > It is very hurtful and uncaring, especially when my motives are
> >> > only
> >> for
> >> > good.
> >>
> >> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
> >> >
> >> > I think your helminth infestation has given you brain fog, Baxter.
> >> > Please take the recommended course of fenbendazole and also clear
> >> > the cancer in your mind.
> >> >
> >> > Lovingly yours,
> >> >
> >
> >> Nah, you do what you claim I did - only you did it for real, and you
> >> imagined that I insulted you.
> >
> >
> > You really did insult him, Baxter. Stop lying.
> >
> >
>
> I just said the truth and he imagined it an insult. But then
> conservaturds are notorious snowflakes.

Your side is looking bad.

--

BITCH! YOU MISSED!

On 19/07/2024 12:54 am, Baxter wrote:
> "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in news:UL0mO.9223$iptd.3836@fx36.iad:
>
>> Baxter wrote:
>>
>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>> news:v79fvt $20s4f$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 18/07/2024 12:57 am, Baxter wrote:
>>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v77ta3$1o52d$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/07/2024 12:55 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Endless strife is what you're doing here. Why don't you fuck
>>> off?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That doesn't seem very nice. Why is it that I suffer you but you
>>> can't
>>>>>> rise up to offer the same to me? Again, there is that sinner
>>>>>> religiosity spiritual activity again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is a very selfish cruel spirit.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ah yes, religious fanatics just LOVE to PLAY the martyr.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it is very nice that you would support a person
>>>> unkindly telling another person to "fuck off," Baxter.
>>>>
>>>> It is very hurtful and uncaring, especially when my motives are
>>>> only
>>> for
>>>> good.
>>>
>>> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>>>>
>>>> I think your helminth infestation has given you brain fog, Baxter.
>>>> Please take the recommended course of fenbendazole and also clear
>>>> the cancer in your mind.
>>>>
>>>> Lovingly yours,
>>>>
>>
>>> Nah, you do what you claim I did - only you did it for real, and you
>>> imagined that I insulted you.
>>
>>
>> You really did insult him, Baxter. Stop lying.
>>
>>
>
> I just said the truth and he imagined it an insult. But then
> conservaturds are notorious snowflakes.

You have no sole! What is your heart, a piece of rigor mortis chuck steak???

How dare you speak like that to Ted, Chucky! Didn't you know that he is
Saint Peter's CEO? You are never going to get in the way you are going,
Buddy!

No wonder you fled from this question, Bexter...

Chucky Baxta wrote:
> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

So, what is the road to heaven paved with?

You better start showing some respect, Fella, or you may end up like
Maximus who had to be eliminated from the newsgroups and interned into
an insane asylum!

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

In the Name of Jesus wrote:
> On 19/07/2024 12:54 am, Baxter wrote:
>> "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in news:UL0mO.9223$iptd.3836@fx36.iad:
>>
>>> Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v79fvt $20s4f$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/07/2024 12:57 am, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:v77ta3$1o52d$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17/07/2024 12:55 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Endless strife is what you're doing here.   Why don't you fuck
>>>> off?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That doesn't seem very nice. Why is it that I suffer you but you
>>>> can't
>>>>>>> rise up to offer the same to me? Again, there is that sinner
>>>>>>> religiosity spiritual activity again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a very selfish cruel spirit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah yes, religious fanatics just LOVE to PLAY the martyr.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think it is very nice that you would support a person
>>>>> unkindly telling another person to "fuck off," Baxter.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very hurtful and uncaring, especially when my motives are
>>>>> only
>>>> for
>>>>> good.
>>>>
>>>> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think your helminth infestation has given you brain fog, Baxter.
>>>>> Please take the recommended course of fenbendazole and also clear
>>>>> the cancer in your mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lovingly yours,
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Nah, you do what you claim I did - only you did it for real, and you
>>>> imagined that I insulted you.
>>>
>>>
>>> You really did insult him, Baxter. Stop lying.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I just said the truth and he imagined it an insult.  But then
>> conservaturds are notorious snowflakes.
>
> You have no sole! What is your heart, a piece of rigor mortis chuck
> steak???
>
> How dare you speak like that to Ted, Chucky! Didn't you know that he is
> Saint Peter's CEO? You are never going to get in the way you are going,
> Buddy!
>
> No wonder you fled from this question, Bexter...
>
> Chucky Baxta wrote:
> > The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>
> So, what is the road to heaven paved with?
>
> You better start showing some respect, Fella, or you may end up like
> Maximus who had to be eliminated from the newsgroups and interned into
> an insane asylum!
>
>
>
>
>
> In the Name of Jesus
>
where does that road go

In article <v7c3ih$2jeki$1@dont-email.me>, michaelmclean2021@outlook.com
says...
>
> On 19/07/2024 12:54 am, Baxter wrote:
> > "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in news:UL0mO.9223$iptd.3836@fx36.iad:
> >
> >> Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> >>> news:v79fvt $20s4f$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>>> On 18/07/2024 12:57 am, Baxter wrote:
> >>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> >>>>> news:v77ta3$1o52d$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 17/07/2024 12:55 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Endless strife is what you're doing here. Why don't you fuck
> >>> off?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That doesn't seem very nice. Why is it that I suffer you but you
> >>> can't
> >>>>>> rise up to offer the same to me? Again, there is that sinner
> >>>>>> religiosity spiritual activity again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It is a very selfish cruel spirit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Ah yes, religious fanatics just LOVE to PLAY the martyr.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think it is very nice that you would support a person
> >>>> unkindly telling another person to "fuck off," Baxter.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is very hurtful and uncaring, especially when my motives are
> >>>> only
> >>> for
> >>>> good.
> >>>
> >>> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think your helminth infestation has given you brain fog, Baxter.
> >>>> Please take the recommended course of fenbendazole and also clear
> >>>> the cancer in your mind.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lovingly yours,
> >>>>
> >>
> >>> Nah, you do what you claim I did - only you did it for real, and you
> >>> imagined that I insulted you.
> >>
> >>
> >> You really did insult him, Baxter. Stop lying.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I just said the truth and he imagined it an insult. But then
> > conservaturds are notorious snowflakes.

I see the libby kooks have to steal "snowflake" from us because they
have nothing.
>
> You have no sole! What is your heart, a piece of rigor mortis chuck steak???
>
> How dare you speak like that to Ted, Chucky! Didn't you know that he is
> Saint Peter's CEO? You are never going to get in the way you are going,
> Buddy!
>
> No wonder you fled from this question, Bexter...
>
> Chucky Baxta wrote:
> > The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>
> So, what is the road to heaven paved with?
>
> You better start showing some respect, Fella, or you may end up like
> Maximus who had to be eliminated from the newsgroups and interned into
> an insane asylum!
>
>
>
>
>
> In the Name of Jesus

--

BITCH! YOU MISSED!

On 19/07/2024 8:25 am, % wrote:
> In the Name of Jesus wrote:
>> On 19/07/2024 12:54 am, Baxter wrote:
>>> "Ted" <ted.street@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:UL0mO.9223$iptd.3836@fx36.iad:
>>>
>>>> Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v79fvt $20s4f$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/07/2024 12:57 am, Baxter wrote:
>>>>>>> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:v77ta3$1o52d$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 17/07/2024 12:55 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Endless strife is what you're doing here.   Why don't you fuck
>>>>> off?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That doesn't seem very nice. Why is it that I suffer you but you
>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>> rise up to offer the same to me? Again, there is that sinner
>>>>>>>> religiosity spiritual activity again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is a very selfish cruel spirit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah yes, religious fanatics just LOVE to PLAY the martyr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think it is very nice that you would support a person
>>>>>> unkindly telling another person to "fuck off," Baxter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is very hurtful and uncaring, especially when my motives are
>>>>>> only
>>>>> for
>>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think your helminth infestation has given you brain fog, Baxter.
>>>>>> Please take the recommended course of fenbendazole and also clear
>>>>>> the cancer in your mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lovingly yours,
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nah, you do what you claim I did - only you did it for real, and you
>>>>> imagined that I insulted you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You really did insult him, Baxter. Stop lying.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I just said the truth and he imagined it an insult.  But then
>>> conservaturds are notorious snowflakes.
>>
>> You have no sole! What is your heart, a piece of rigor mortis chuck
>> steak???
>>
>> How dare you speak like that to Ted, Chucky! Didn't you know that he
>> is Saint Peter's CEO? You are never going to get in the way you are
>> going, Buddy!
>>
>> No wonder you fled from this question, Bexter...
>>
>> Chucky Baxta wrote:
>>  > The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
>>
>> So, what is the road to heaven paved with?
>>
>> You better start showing some respect, Fella, or you may end up like
>> Maximus who had to be eliminated from the newsgroups and interned into
>> an insane asylum!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus
>>
> where does that road go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnki30DOJI4

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"Attila" wrote in message news:ov5i9jp62id9e1bcth1vul8hk26cb1oqf7@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> do we agree that if Christians claim God is
>>>>>>> all-loving and all-powerful, they are wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No. The Bible explains why evil had to be
>>>>>>is temporarily permitted.
>>>>>
>>>>> The standard Christian explanation is that evil has to be allowed to
>>>>> show that Satan's ways are wrong, so that the rebellion against God
>>>>> fomented by Satan can be properly ended with fairness to everyone
>>>>> involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two problems with this explanation:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) It assumes human beings must be retards of the first magnitude.
>>>>> One *century* of evil should have been way more than necessary to
>>>>> achieve the goal of describing Satan accurately, not six *thousand*
>>>>> years. If God existed, it would be appropriate to say to him, "All
>>>>> right, all right, Satan = bad; we get it! Now be reasonable and end
>>>>> the evil!"
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) It fails to explain the *magnitude* of the evil involved. If God
>>>>> wanted to demonstrate that Satan was wrong, he didn't need to pull
>>>>> billions and billions of humans and animals into it. Just restrict
>>>>> the experiment to just Adam and Eve and a few select creatures, and
>>>>> use that for his lesson study.
>>>>___________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>That is your reasoning from your limited perspective.
>>>>
>>>>But God has a much higher and different perspective
>>>>than yours.
>>>>
>>>>And you are foolish enough to think that you are
>>>>wiser that the living God who knows all things.
>>>>
>>>>"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
>>>> neither are your ways my ways, saith the
>>>> Lord.
>>>>
>>>>"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
>>>> so are my ways higher than your ways
>>>> and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>>>> ~ Isaiah 55:8-9
>>>
>>> Of course. You don't know the answer, so you just have to have faith.
>>> But my point was precisely that you *don't know* despite how many
>>> Christians act like they have actual answers intellectually to these
>>> kind of questions.
>>
>>Since this has all been revealed to us in the Bible, you have
>>no excuse. Nevertheless you are free to make a fool of your
>>self, and to reject the salvation that is offered to you free of
>>charge.
>
> How about those of us who reject your silly superstition and
> all of it's facets?
______________________________________________

"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not
believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the
name of the only Son of God.

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects
the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 01:57:04 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<xTpmO.377303$VBH2.191425@fx16.ams4> wrote:

>"Attila" wrote in message news:ov5i9jp62id9e1bcth1vul8hk26cb1oqf7@4ax.com...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> do we agree that if Christians claim God is
>>>>>>>> all-loving and all-powerful, they are wrong?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No. The Bible explains why evil had to be
>>>>>>>is temporarily permitted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The standard Christian explanation is that evil has to be allowed to
>>>>>> show that Satan's ways are wrong, so that the rebellion against God
>>>>>> fomented by Satan can be properly ended with fairness to everyone
>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are two problems with this explanation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) It assumes human beings must be retards of the first magnitude.
>>>>>> One *century* of evil should have been way more than necessary to
>>>>>> achieve the goal of describing Satan accurately, not six *thousand*
>>>>>> years. If God existed, it would be appropriate to say to him, "All
>>>>>> right, all right, Satan = bad; we get it! Now be reasonable and end
>>>>>> the evil!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) It fails to explain the *magnitude* of the evil involved. If God
>>>>>> wanted to demonstrate that Satan was wrong, he didn't need to pull
>>>>>> billions and billions of humans and animals into it. Just restrict
>>>>>> the experiment to just Adam and Eve and a few select creatures, and
>>>>>> use that for his lesson study.
>>>>>___________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>>That is your reasoning from your limited perspective.
>>>>>
>>>>>But God has a much higher and different perspective
>>>>>than yours.
>>>>>
>>>>>And you are foolish enough to think that you are
>>>>>wiser that the living God who knows all things.
>>>>>
>>>>>"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
>>>>> neither are your ways my ways, saith the
>>>>> Lord.
>>>>>
>>>>>"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
>>>>> so are my ways higher than your ways
>>>>> and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>>>>> ~ Isaiah 55:8-9
>>>>
>>>> Of course. You don't know the answer, so you just have to have faith.
>>>> But my point was precisely that you *don't know* despite how many
>>>> Christians act like they have actual answers intellectually to these
>>>> kind of questions.
>>>
>>>Since this has all been revealed to us in the Bible, you have
>>>no excuse. Nevertheless you are free to make a fool of your
>>>self, and to reject the salvation that is offered to you free of
>>>charge.
>>
>> How about those of us who reject your silly superstition and
>> all of it's facets?
>______________________________________________
>

Quotes from unverified source removed.

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy) and
the Green Raw Deal. Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

"Attila" wrote in message news:d5ck9jt3j05b2f5gjvq5ktc2fkkf5uvvr6@4ax.com...
>"Andrew" wrote:
>>"Attila" wrote:
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> do we agree that if Christians claim God is
>>>>>>>>> all-loving and all-powerful, they are wrong?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No. The Bible explains why evil had to be
>>>>>>>>is temporarily permitted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The standard Christian explanation is that evil has to be allowed to
>>>>>>> show that Satan's ways are wrong, so that the rebellion against God
>>>>>>> fomented by Satan can be properly ended with fairness to everyone
>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are two problems with this explanation:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) It assumes human beings must be retards of the first magnitude.
>>>>>>> One *century* of evil should have been way more than necessary to
>>>>>>> achieve the goal of describing Satan accurately, not six *thousand*
>>>>>>> years. If God existed, it would be appropriate to say to him, "All
>>>>>>> right, all right, Satan = bad; we get it! Now be reasonable and end
>>>>>>> the evil!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) It fails to explain the *magnitude* of the evil involved. If God
>>>>>>> wanted to demonstrate that Satan was wrong, he didn't need to pull
>>>>>>> billions and billions of humans and animals into it. Just restrict
>>>>>>> the experiment to just Adam and Eve and a few select creatures, and
>>>>>>> use that for his lesson study.
>>>>>>___________________________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is your reasoning from your limited perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But God has a much higher and different perspective
>>>>>>than yours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And you are foolish enough to think that you are
>>>>>>wiser that the living God who knows all things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
>>>>>> neither are your ways my ways, saith the
>>>>>> Lord.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
>>>>>> so are my ways higher than your ways
>>>>>> and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>>>>>> ~ Isaiah 55:8-9
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course. You don't know the answer, so you just have to have faith.
>>>>> But my point was precisely that you *don't know* despite how many
>>>>> Christians act like they have actual answers intellectually to these
>>>>> kind of questions.
>>>>
>>>>Since this has all been revealed to us in the Bible, you have
>>>>no excuse. Nevertheless you are free to make a fool of your
>>>>self, and to reject the salvation that is offered to you free of
>>>>charge.
>>>
>>> How about those of us who reject your silly superstition and
>>> all of it's facets?
>>______________________________________________
>
> Quotes from unverified source removed.

Yet they were the answer to your question.
You are free to ignore them for now, but
you will find out for yourself soon enough.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 03:02:57 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:

>"Attila" wrote in message news:d5ck9jt3j05b2f5gjvq5ktc2fkkf5uvvr6@4ax.com...
>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Attila" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> do we agree that if Christians claim God is
>>>>>>>>>> all-loving and all-powerful, they are wrong?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No. The Bible explains why evil had to be
>>>>>>>>>is temporarily permitted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The standard Christian explanation is that evil has to be allowed to
>>>>>>>> show that Satan's ways are wrong, so that the rebellion against God
>>>>>>>> fomented by Satan can be properly ended with fairness to everyone
>>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are two problems with this explanation:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) It assumes human beings must be retards of the first magnitude.
>>>>>>>> One *century* of evil should have been way more than necessary to
>>>>>>>> achieve the goal of describing Satan accurately, not six *thousand*
>>>>>>>> years. If God existed, it would be appropriate to say to him, "All
>>>>>>>> right, all right, Satan = bad; we get it! Now be reasonable and end
>>>>>>>> the evil!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) It fails to explain the *magnitude* of the evil involved. If God
>>>>>>>> wanted to demonstrate that Satan was wrong, he didn't need to pull
>>>>>>>> billions and billions of humans and animals into it. Just restrict
>>>>>>>> the experiment to just Adam and Eve and a few select creatures, and
>>>>>>>> use that for his lesson study.
>>>>>>>___________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is your reasoning from your limited perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But God has a much higher and different perspective
>>>>>>>than yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And you are foolish enough to think that you are
>>>>>>>wiser that the living God who knows all things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
>>>>>>> neither are your ways my ways, saith the
>>>>>>> Lord.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
>>>>>>> so are my ways higher than your ways
>>>>>>> and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>>>>>>> ~ Isaiah 55:8-9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course. You don't know the answer, so you just have to have faith.
>>>>>> But my point was precisely that you *don't know* despite how many
>>>>>> Christians act like they have actual answers intellectually to these
>>>>>> kind of questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since this has all been revealed to us in the Bible, you have
>>>>>no excuse. Nevertheless you are free to make a fool of your
>>>>>self, and to reject the salvation that is offered to you free of
>>>>>charge.
>>>>
>>>> How about those of us who reject your silly superstition and
>>>> all of it's facets?
>>>______________________________________________
>>
>> Quotes from unverified source removed.

Right!

>Yet they were the answer to your question.

Your answer to why, after all was said and done, God allows suffering
was to just say essentially "I don't know, must be I trust ~~ God
...um..Bible! Bi~ble." That of course is irrational and
anti-intellectual.

>You are free to ignore them for now, but
>you will find out for yourself soon enough.

Why would we have to wait for such a long time?

So do you have a rational answer to that last question or is it going
to be more quotes from your Big Book o' Myths and Legends called the
Bible?

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 03:02:57 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> in alt.atheism with message-id
<lRqmO.135692$zXH9.4059@fx01.ams4> wrote:

>"Attila" wrote in message news:d5ck9jt3j05b2f5gjvq5ktc2fkkf5uvvr6@4ax.com...
>>"Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Attila" wrote:
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> do we agree that if Christians claim God is
>>>>>>>>>> all-loving and all-powerful, they are wrong?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No. The Bible explains why evil had to be
>>>>>>>>>is temporarily permitted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The standard Christian explanation is that evil has to be allowed to
>>>>>>>> show that Satan's ways are wrong, so that the rebellion against God
>>>>>>>> fomented by Satan can be properly ended with fairness to everyone
>>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are two problems with this explanation:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) It assumes human beings must be retards of the first magnitude.
>>>>>>>> One *century* of evil should have been way more than necessary to
>>>>>>>> achieve the goal of describing Satan accurately, not six *thousand*
>>>>>>>> years. If God existed, it would be appropriate to say to him, "All
>>>>>>>> right, all right, Satan = bad; we get it! Now be reasonable and end
>>>>>>>> the evil!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) It fails to explain the *magnitude* of the evil involved. If God
>>>>>>>> wanted to demonstrate that Satan was wrong, he didn't need to pull
>>>>>>>> billions and billions of humans and animals into it. Just restrict
>>>>>>>> the experiment to just Adam and Eve and a few select creatures, and
>>>>>>>> use that for his lesson study.
>>>>>>>___________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That is your reasoning from your limited perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But God has a much higher and different perspective
>>>>>>>than yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And you are foolish enough to think that you are
>>>>>>>wiser that the living God who knows all things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
>>>>>>> neither are your ways my ways, saith the
>>>>>>> Lord.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
>>>>>>> so are my ways higher than your ways
>>>>>>> and my thoughts than your thoughts."
>>>>>>> ~ Isaiah 55:8-9
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course. You don't know the answer, so you just have to have faith.
>>>>>> But my point was precisely that you *don't know* despite how many
>>>>>> Christians act like they have actual answers intellectually to these
>>>>>> kind of questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Since this has all been revealed to us in the Bible, you have
>>>>>no excuse. Nevertheless you are free to make a fool of your
>>>>>self, and to reject the salvation that is offered to you free of
>>>>>charge.
>>>>
>>>> How about those of us who reject your silly superstition and
>>>> all of it's facets?
>>>______________________________________________
>>
>> Quotes from unverified source removed.
>
>Yet they were the answer to your question.
>You are free to ignore them for now, but
>you will find out for yourself soon enough.

They were quotes from an unverified source and thus are
useless for anything.

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy) and
the Green Raw Deal. Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?

Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
things out for yourself?

On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:04:06 -0700, "Andrew"
<andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:

>"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
>
>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>
>Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>things out for yourself?

LOL! Oh, I've searched things out for myself and found that it
appears that the Christian god does not exist. The next step is
getting you to see that by asking you questions about your faith.

On 20/07/2024 12:59 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:04:06 -0700, "Andrew"
> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
>>
>>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>>
>> Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>> God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>> things out for yourself?
>
> LOL! Oh, I've searched things out for myself and found that it
> appears that the Christian god does not exist. The next step is
> getting you to see that by asking you questions about your faith.

Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of fact,
reality, and truth, Vincent.

I say I know God, but what do you say you know? Nothing created
everything? Everything just did it itself? Life brought itself into being?

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:57:56 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:

>On 20/07/2024 12:59 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:04:06 -0700, "Andrew"
>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>>>
>>> Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>>> God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>>> things out for yourself?
>>
>> LOL! Oh, I've searched things out for myself and found that it
>> appears that the Christian god does not exist. The next step is
>> getting you to see that by asking you questions about your faith.
>
>Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of fact,
>reality, and truth, Vincent.

Prove it.

>I say I know God,

That's all in your head. I see no reason to have an imaginary friend
like that.

> but what do you say you know? Nothing created
>everything? Everything just did it itself? Life brought itself into being?

No, it evolved from something that came before it.

On 20/07/2024 2:43 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:57:56 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> On 20/07/2024 12:59 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:04:06 -0700, "Andrew"
>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>>>>
>>>> Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>>>> God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>>>> things out for yourself?
>>>
>>> LOL! Oh, I've searched things out for myself and found that it
>>> appears that the Christian god does not exist. The next step is
>>> getting you to see that by asking you questions about your faith.
>>
>> Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of fact,
>> reality, and truth, Vincent.
>
> Prove it.

Amazing self-worship, Vincent.

I don't have to prove anything; I know the truth.

What you believe and put your faith in does not have any authority.

>
>> I say I know God,
>
> That's all in your head. I see no reason to have an imaginary friend
> like that.
>
>> but what do you say you know? Nothing created
>> everything? Everything just did it itself? Life brought itself into being?
>
> No, it evolved from something that came before it.

And that simply created itself, just did it itself, and brought itself
into being by itself. :-).

What you believe and put your faith is not based if fact, reality, and
truth.

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:05:57 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
<michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:

>On 20/07/2024 2:43 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:57:56 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/07/2024 12:59 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:04:06 -0700, "Andrew"
>>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>>>>> God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>>>>> things out for yourself?
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Oh, I've searched things out for myself and found that it
>>>> appears that the Christian god does not exist. The next step is
>>>> getting you to see that by asking you questions about your faith.
>>>
>>> Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of fact,
>>> reality, and truth, Vincent.
>>
>> Prove it.
>
>Amazing self-worship, Vincent.

So disagreeing with you is self-worship now?

>I don't have to prove anything; I know the truth.
>
>What you believe and put your faith in does not have any authority.

I don't have to put my faith in anything; I know the truth.

>>> I say I know God,
>>
>> That's all in your head. I see no reason to have an imaginary friend
>> like that.
>>
>>> but what do you say you know? Nothing created
>>> everything? Everything just did it itself? Life brought itself into being?
>>
>> No, it evolved from something that came before it.
>
>And that simply created itself, just did it itself, and brought itself
>into being by itself. :-).

Now, you know better than that. ;-)

>What you believe and put your faith is not based if fact, reality, and
>truth.
>
>
>
>
>
>In the Name of Jesus

In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
news:v7fulm$3f8oh$1@dont-email.me:

> On 20/07/2024 2:43 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:57:56 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
see that by asking you questions about your faith.
>>>
>>> Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of
>>> fact, reality, and truth, Vincent.
>>
>> Prove it.
>
> Amazing self-worship, Vincent.
>
> I don't have to prove anything; I know the truth.
>
> What you believe and put your faith in does not have any authority.
>
Actually, what YOU believe and put YOUR faith in does not have any
authority with anybody else. So if you are not trying to convince others,
why are you here? You're just masterbating.

On 20/07/2024 7:42 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:05:57 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> On 20/07/2024 2:43 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:57:56 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20/07/2024 12:59 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:04:06 -0700, "Andrew"
>>>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>>>>>> God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>>>>>> things out for yourself?
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Oh, I've searched things out for myself and found that it
>>>>> appears that the Christian god does not exist. The next step is
>>>>> getting you to see that by asking you questions about your faith.
>>>>
>>>> Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of fact,
>>>> reality, and truth, Vincent.
>>>
>>> Prove it.
>>
>> Amazing self-worship, Vincent.

> So disagreeing with you is self-worship now?

You don't need me for that, Vincent.

>
>> I don't have to prove anything; I know the truth.
>>
>> What you believe and put your faith in does not have any authority.
>
> I don't have to put my faith in anything; I know the truth.

Yeah, okay.

>
>>>> I say I know God,
>>>
>>> That's all in your head. I see no reason to have an imaginary friend
>>> like that.
>>>
>>>> but what do you say you know? Nothing created
>>>> everything? Everything just did it itself? Life brought itself into being?
>>>
>>> No, it evolved from something that came before it.
>>
>> And that simply created itself, just did it itself, and brought itself
>> into being by itself. :-).
>
> Now, you know better than that. ;-)

Of course, and so do you.

You are playing a game you cannot win, Vincent.

In the Name of Jesus

>> What you believe and put your faith is not based if fact, reality, and
>> truth.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

In the Name of Jesus wrote:
> On 20/07/2024 7:42 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 19:05:57 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/07/2024 2:43 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:57:56 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/07/2024 12:59 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 17:04:06 -0700, "Andrew"
>>>>>> <andrew.321.remov@usa.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Vincent Maycock" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:h39l9jduq4il7ncdfdnrqhr3371sa3bukf@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>>>>>>> God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>>>>>>> things out for yourself?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! Oh,  I've searched things out for myself and found that it
>>>>>> appears that the Christian god does not exist.  The next step is
>>>>>> getting you to see that by asking you questions about your faith.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of fact,
>>>>> reality, and truth, Vincent.
>>>>
>>>> Prove it.
>>>
>>> Amazing self-worship, Vincent.
>
>> So disagreeing with you is self-worship now?
>
> You don't need me for that, Vincent.
>
>
>>
>>> I don't have to prove anything; I know the truth.
>>>
>>> What you believe and put your faith in does not have any authority.
>>
>> I don't have to put my faith in anything; I know the truth.
>
> Yeah, okay.
>
>
>>
>>>>> I say I know God,
>>>>
>>>> That's  all in your head.  I see no reason to have an imaginary friend
>>>> like that.
>>>>
>>>>> but what do you say you know? Nothing created
>>>>> everything? Everything just did it itself? Life brought itself into
>>>>> being?
>>>>
>>>>    No, it evolved from something that came before it.
>>>
>>> And that simply created itself, just did it itself, and brought itself
>>> into being by itself.  :-).
>>
>> Now, you know better than that.  ;-)
>
> Of course, and so do you.
>
> You are playing a game you cannot win, Vincent.
>
>
>
>
> In the Name of Jesus
>
>
>>> What you believe and put your faith is not based if fact, reality, and
>>> truth.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the Name of Jesus
>
that's what games are for

On 21/07/2024 12:44 am, Baxter wrote:
> In the Name of Jesus <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote in
> news:v7fulm$3f8oh$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 20/07/2024 2:43 pm, Vincent Maycock wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 13:57:56 +1000, In the Name of Jesus
>>> <michaelmclean2021@outlook.com> wrote:
> see that by asking you questions about your faith.
>>>>
>>>> Your belief and what you put your faith is not the foundation of
>>>> fact, reality, and truth, Vincent.
>>>
>>> Prove it.
>>
>> Amazing self-worship, Vincent.
>>
>> I don't have to prove anything; I know the truth.
>>
>> What you believe and put your faith in does not have any authority.
>>
> Actually, what YOU believe and put YOUR faith in does not have any
> authority with anybody else.

Yes, it does; the truth has all authority.

You don't respect the truth now, but you certainly will later when you
are brought to your knees.

> So if you are not trying to convince others,
> why are you here? You're just masterbating.

I'll leave that to you, Baxter.

I am here because this is where the Lord wants me for now, and for many
many reasons. Not the least of which is to view how sinful and deceitful
selfish self-righteous human nature is—religious or otherwise.

In the process of deceiving others, you deceive yourselves.

You run around pretending you have something when you have nothing; no
clue about the meaning of life.

Now, can you answer my questions?

Baxter wrote:
> The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

So, what is the road to heaven paved with?

It that just more of Baxter and his "emissions?"

In the Name of Jesus

--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:as9m9j9n1mvr4seen4uak345hvjmskub67@4ax.com...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>
>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:
>>
>>> So do you have a rational answer to that last question ...?
>>
>>Why do you expect others to answer all your questions when
>>God has given you the ability and the responsibility to search
>>things out for yourself?
>
> LOL! Oh, I've searched things out for myself and found...

You say that you "found"..yet you still keep on asking.

> that it appears that the Christian god does not exist.

Then explain WHO did it.

But you can't.

We are reminded of the following axiom.

One becomes an atheist when they do not
want God in their life.

Not because there is no evidence for God.

Because evidence for our Creator is there
in the very creation that He made; And is
evident for anyone who wants to know.