J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become “America’s Hitler.” Now
he’s Trump’s running mate. But never mind that history. Trump and Vance have a
lot of things, including this, in common: They’re both con men who despise their
most avid supporters.

Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major figure
in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump believes the false
things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he has pulled off a
monumental political bait-and-switch.

And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there’s a fairly good chance that, given
Trump’s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and — yes — his age,
Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.

So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot about
his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in “Hillbilly
Elegy,” which shows startling contempt for the people he grew up with but who,
unlike him, didn’t escape small-town poverty. And people should also be aware
that while his convention speech on Wednesday denounced “Wall Street barons,”
his rise has to a large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech
billionaires; he’s a protégé of Peter Thiel.

“Hillbilly Elegy” was part personal memoir, part social commentary and, to be
fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of generations,
something has gone very wrong in much of rural and small-town America. There has
been a sharp rise in the fraction of men in their prime working years without
jobs, notably in the eastern part of the American heartland. Social problems
have proliferated; as the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented,
there has been a surge in “deaths of despair,” which they defined as deaths from
drugs, alcohol and suicide.

What happened? I’d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many small
towns’ reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan years and isn’t
unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity led, in turn, to social
dysfunction — echoing the earlier rise in social dysfunction in America’s cities
when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.

These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to ameliorate
the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden administration has been
doing just that, with much of its industrial policy aimed at helping depressed
areas. Among other things, a Biden administration grant of up to $575 million —
partly financed by legislation Republicans unanimously opposed — will help
upgrade a steel plant in Vance’s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.

And let’s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance only thanks
to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.

But in “Hillbilly Elegy,” Vance rejected the “cultural movement in the white
working class to blame problems on society or the government.” Instead, he
argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who have nobody to blame
but themselves. They’re lazy: “You can walk through a town where 30 percent of
the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware
of his own laziness.” They’re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
opportunity, but because they aren’t motivated: “We don’t study as children, and
we don’t make our kids study when we’re parents.”

Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.

After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white working
class isn’t lazy, it’s a victim of external forces. He became vehement about
accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going to the native born.

One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal immigrants
are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn’t acknowledge that inflation
has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and that nonsupervisory workers —
especially low-wage workers — have seen their earnings, on average, rise more
than prices.

In fact, immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the native-born
remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born Americans are
leaving the work force, it’s largely because baby boomers are retiring.

And it’s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of small-town
and rural America, which began long before the recent surge in immigration, and
where even now there are relatively few immigrants to be seen. In Vance’s home
state, only 5 percent of the population is foreign-born, compared with around 40
percent in New York City.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html

Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How charming.

In article <5EimO.59324$q2da.52433@fx18.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
says...
>
> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become ?America?s Hitler.? Now
> he?s Trump?s running mate. But never mind that history. Trump and Vance have a
> lot of things, including this, in common: They?re both con men who despise their
> most avid supporters.
>
> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major figure
> in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump believes the false
> things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he has pulled off a
> monumental political bait-and-switch.
>
> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there?s a fairly good chance that, given
> Trump?s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and ? yes ? his age,
> Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.
>
> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot about
> his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in ?Hillbilly
> Elegy,? which shows startling contempt for the people he grew up with but who,
> unlike him, didn?t escape small-town poverty. And people should also be aware
> that while his convention speech on Wednesday denounced ?Wall Street barons,?
> his rise has to a large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech
> billionaires; he?s a protégé of Peter Thiel.
>
> ?Hillbilly Elegy? was part personal memoir, part social commentary and, to be
> fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of generations,
> something has gone very wrong in much of rural and small-town America. There has
> been a sharp rise in the fraction of men in their prime working years without
> jobs, notably in the eastern part of the American heartland. Social problems
> have proliferated; as the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented,
> there has been a surge in ?deaths of despair,? which they defined as deaths from
> drugs, alcohol and suicide.
>
> What happened? I?d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many small
> towns? reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan years and isn?t
> unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity led, in turn, to social
> dysfunction ? echoing the earlier rise in social dysfunction in America?s cities
> when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.
>
> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to ameliorate
> the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden administration has been
> doing just that, with much of its industrial policy aimed at helping depressed
> areas. Among other things, a Biden administration grant of up to $575 million ?
> partly financed by legislation Republicans unanimously opposed ? will help
> upgrade a steel plant in Vance?s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>
> And let?s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance only thanks
> to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>
> But in ?Hillbilly Elegy,? Vance rejected the ?cultural movement in the white
> working class to blame problems on society or the government.? Instead, he
> argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who have nobody to blame
> but themselves. They?re lazy: ?You can walk through a town where 30 percent of
> the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware
> of his own laziness.? They?re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
> opportunity, but because they aren?t motivated: ?We don?t study as children, and
> we don?t make our kids study when we?re parents.?
>
> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>
> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white working
> class isn?t lazy, it?s a victim of external forces. He became vehement about
> accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going to the native born.
>
> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal immigrants
> are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn?t acknowledge that inflation
> has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and that nonsupervisory workers ?
> especially low-wage workers ? have seen their earnings, on average, rise more
> than prices.
>
> In fact, immigrants aren?t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the native-born
> remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born Americans are
> leaving the work force, it?s largely because baby boomers are retiring.
>
> And it?s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of small-town
> and rural America, which began long before the recent surge in immigration, and
> where even now there are relatively few immigrants to be seen. In Vance?s home
> state, only 5 percent of the population is foreign-born, compared with around 40
> percent in New York City.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>
> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How charming.

You're a fucking joke.

--

BITCH! YOU MISSED!

On 7/18/2024 5:58 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <5EimO.59324$q2da.52433@fx18.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
> says...
>>
>> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become ?America?s Hitler.? Now
>> he?s Trump?s running mate. But never mind that history. Trump and Vance have a
>> lot of things, including this, in common: They?re both con men who despise their
>> most avid supporters.
>>
>> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major figure
>> in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump believes the false
>> things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he has pulled off a
>> monumental political bait-and-switch.
>>
>> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there?s a fairly good chance that, given
>> Trump?s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and ? yes ? his age,
>> Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.
>>
>> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot about
>> his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in ?Hillbilly
>> Elegy,? which shows startling contempt for the people he grew up with but who,
>> unlike him, didn?t escape small-town poverty. And people should also be aware
>> that while his convention speech on Wednesday denounced ?Wall Street barons,?
>> his rise has to a large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech
>> billionaires; he?s a protégé of Peter Thiel.
>>
>> ?Hillbilly Elegy? was part personal memoir, part social commentary and, to be
>> fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of generations,
>> something has gone very wrong in much of rural and small-town America. There has
>> been a sharp rise in the fraction of men in their prime working years without
>> jobs, notably in the eastern part of the American heartland. Social problems
>> have proliferated; as the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented,
>> there has been a surge in ?deaths of despair,? which they defined as deaths from
>> drugs, alcohol and suicide.
>>
>> What happened? I?d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many small
>> towns? reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan years and isn?t
>> unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity led, in turn, to social
>> dysfunction ? echoing the earlier rise in social dysfunction in America?s cities
>> when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.
>>
>> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to ameliorate
>> the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden administration has been
>> doing just that, with much of its industrial policy aimed at helping depressed
>> areas. Among other things, a Biden administration grant of up to $575 million ?
>> partly financed by legislation Republicans unanimously opposed ? will help
>> upgrade a steel plant in Vance?s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>>
>> And let?s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance only thanks
>> to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>>
>> But in ?Hillbilly Elegy,? Vance rejected the ?cultural movement in the white
>> working class to blame problems on society or the government.? Instead, he
>> argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who have nobody to blame
>> but themselves. They?re lazy: ?You can walk through a town where 30 percent of
>> the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware
>> of his own laziness.? They?re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
>> opportunity, but because they aren?t motivated: ?We don?t study as children, and
>> we don?t make our kids study when we?re parents.?
>>
>> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>>
>> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white working
>> class isn?t lazy, it?s a victim of external forces. He became vehement about
>> accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going to the native born.
>>
>> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal immigrants
>> are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn?t acknowledge that inflation
>> has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and that nonsupervisory workers ?
>> especially low-wage workers ? have seen their earnings, on average, rise more
>> than prices.
>>
>> In fact, immigrants aren?t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the native-born
>> remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born Americans are
>> leaving the work force, it?s largely because baby boomers are retiring.
>>
>> And it?s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of small-town
>> and rural America, which began long before the recent surge in immigration, and
>> where even now there are relatively few immigrants to be seen. In Vance?s home
>> state, only 5 percent of the population is foreign-born, compared with around 40
>> percent in New York City.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>>
>> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How charming.
>
> You're my intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior.

That's right, and don't you ever forget it.

On 7/18/2024 6:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <44jmO.16895$6ZU4.8542@fx46.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 7/18/2024 5:58 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <5EimO.59324$q2da.52433@fx18.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become ?America?s Hitler.? Now
>>>> he?s Trump?s running mate. But never mind that history. Trump and Vance have a
>>>> lot of things, including this, in common: They?re both con men who despise their
>>>> most avid supporters.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major figure
>>>> in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump believes the false
>>>> things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he has pulled off a
>>>> monumental political bait-and-switch.
>>>>
>>>> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there?s a fairly good chance that, given
>>>> Trump?s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and ? yes ? his age,
>>>> Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.
>>>>
>>>> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot about
>>>> his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in ?Hillbilly
>>>> Elegy,? which shows startling contempt for the people he grew up with but who,
>>>> unlike him, didn?t escape small-town poverty. And people should also be aware
>>>> that while his convention speech on Wednesday denounced ?Wall Street barons,?
>>>> his rise has to a large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech
>>>> billionaires; he?s a protégé of Peter Thiel.
>>>>
>>>> ?Hillbilly Elegy? was part personal memoir, part social commentary and, to be
>>>> fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of generations,
>>>> something has gone very wrong in much of rural and small-town America. There has
>>>> been a sharp rise in the fraction of men in their prime working years without
>>>> jobs, notably in the eastern part of the American heartland. Social problems
>>>> have proliferated; as the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented,
>>>> there has been a surge in ?deaths of despair,? which they defined as deaths from
>>>> drugs, alcohol and suicide.
>>>>
>>>> What happened? I?d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many small
>>>> towns? reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan years and isn?t
>>>> unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity led, in turn, to social
>>>> dysfunction ? echoing the earlier rise in social dysfunction in America?s cities
>>>> when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.
>>>>
>>>> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to ameliorate
>>>> the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden administration has been
>>>> doing just that, with much of its industrial policy aimed at helping depressed
>>>> areas. Among other things, a Biden administration grant of up to $575 million ?
>>>> partly financed by legislation Republicans unanimously opposed ? will help
>>>> upgrade a steel plant in Vance?s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>>>>
>>>> And let?s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance only thanks
>>>> to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>>>>
>>>> But in ?Hillbilly Elegy,? Vance rejected the ?cultural movement in the white
>>>> working class to blame problems on society or the government.? Instead, he
>>>> argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who have nobody to blame
>>>> but themselves. They?re lazy: ?You can walk through a town where 30 percent of
>>>> the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware
>>>> of his own laziness.? They?re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
>>>> opportunity, but because they aren?t motivated: ?We don?t study as children, and
>>>> we don?t make our kids study when we?re parents.?
>>>>
>>>> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>>>>
>>>> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white working
>>>> class isn?t lazy, it?s a victim of external forces. He became vehement about
>>>> accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going to the native born.
>>>>
>>>> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal immigrants
>>>> are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn?t acknowledge that inflation
>>>> has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and that nonsupervisory workers ?
>>>> especially low-wage workers ? have seen their earnings, on average, rise more
>>>> than prices.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, immigrants aren?t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the native-born
>>>> remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born Americans are
>>>> leaving the work force, it?s largely because baby boomers are retiring.
>>>>
>>>> And it?s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of small-town
>>>> and rural America, which began long before the recent surge in immigration, and
>>>> where even now there are relatively few immigrants to be seen. In Vance?s home
>>>> state, only 5 percent of the population is foreign-born, compared with around 40
>>>> percent in New York City.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>>>>
>>>> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How charming.
>>>
>>> You're my intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior.
>>
>> That's right, and don't you ever forget it.
>
> Dead thread.

Nope. That's why you keep replying and acknowledging that I am your
intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior. And
you'll do it again, and again, and again...

On 7/18/2024 7:23 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <pFjmO.44014$ySE.17238@fx11.iad>,
> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>
>> On 7/18/2024 6:42 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
>> molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>
>>> In article <44jmO.16895$6ZU4.8542@fx46.iad>,
>>> mike.am.surreal@earthlink.nut says...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/18/2024 5:58 PM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <5EimO.59324$q2da.52433@fx18.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become ?America?s Hitler.? Now
>>>>>> he?s Trump?s running mate. But never mind that history. Trump and Vance have a
>>>>>> lot of things, including this, in common: They?re both con men who despise their
>>>>>> most avid supporters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major figure
>>>>>> in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump believes the false
>>>>>> things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he has pulled off a
>>>>>> monumental political bait-and-switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there?s a fairly good chance that, given
>>>>>> Trump?s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and ? yes ? his age,
>>>>>> Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot about
>>>>>> his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in ?Hillbilly
>>>>>> Elegy,? which shows startling contempt for the people he grew up with but who,
>>>>>> unlike him, didn?t escape small-town poverty. And people should also be aware
>>>>>> that while his convention speech on Wednesday denounced ?Wall Street barons,?
>>>>>> his rise has to a large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech
>>>>>> billionaires; he?s a protégé of Peter Thiel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Hillbilly Elegy? was part personal memoir, part social commentary and, to be
>>>>>> fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of generations,
>>>>>> something has gone very wrong in much of rural and small-town America. There has
>>>>>> been a sharp rise in the fraction of men in their prime working years without
>>>>>> jobs, notably in the eastern part of the American heartland. Social problems
>>>>>> have proliferated; as the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented,
>>>>>> there has been a surge in ?deaths of despair,? which they defined as deaths from
>>>>>> drugs, alcohol and suicide.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What happened? I?d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many small
>>>>>> towns? reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan years and isn?t
>>>>>> unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity led, in turn, to social
>>>>>> dysfunction ? echoing the earlier rise in social dysfunction in America?s cities
>>>>>> when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to ameliorate
>>>>>> the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden administration has been
>>>>>> doing just that, with much of its industrial policy aimed at helping depressed
>>>>>> areas. Among other things, a Biden administration grant of up to $575 million ?
>>>>>> partly financed by legislation Republicans unanimously opposed ? will help
>>>>>> upgrade a steel plant in Vance?s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And let?s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance only thanks
>>>>>> to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But in ?Hillbilly Elegy,? Vance rejected the ?cultural movement in the white
>>>>>> working class to blame problems on society or the government.? Instead, he
>>>>>> argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who have nobody to blame
>>>>>> but themselves. They?re lazy: ?You can walk through a town where 30 percent of
>>>>>> the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware
>>>>>> of his own laziness.? They?re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
>>>>>> opportunity, but because they aren?t motivated: ?We don?t study as children, and
>>>>>> we don?t make our kids study when we?re parents.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white working
>>>>>> class isn?t lazy, it?s a victim of external forces. He became vehement about
>>>>>> accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going to the native born.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal immigrants
>>>>>> are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn?t acknowledge that inflation
>>>>>> has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and that nonsupervisory workers ?
>>>>>> especially low-wage workers ? have seen their earnings, on average, rise more
>>>>>> than prices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, immigrants aren?t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the native-born
>>>>>> remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born Americans are
>>>>>> leaving the work force, it?s largely because baby boomers are retiring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it?s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of small-town
>>>>>> and rural America, which began long before the recent surge in immigration, and
>>>>>> where even now there are relatively few immigrants to be seen. In Vance?s home
>>>>>> state, only 5 percent of the population is foreign-born, compared with around 40
>>>>>> percent in New York City.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How charming.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're my intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior.
>>>>
>>>> That's right, and don't you ever forget it.
>>>
>>> Dead thread.
>>
>> Nope. That's why you keep replying and acknowledging that I am your
>> intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior. And
>> you'll do it again, and again, and again...
>
> Dead,

Nope. I called it. You can't help yourself.

You'll do it again, and again, and again...

Rudy Canoza wrote:
> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become “America’s
> Hitler.” Now he’s Trump’s running mate. But never mind that history.
> Trump and Vance have a lot of things, including this, in common: They’re
> both con men who despise their most avid supporters.
>
> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major
> figure in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump
> believes the false things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he
> has pulled off a monumental political bait-and-switch.
>
> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there’s a fairly good chance that,
> given Trump’s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and —
> yes — his age, Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.
>
> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot
> about his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in
> “Hillbilly Elegy,” which shows startling contempt for the people he grew
> up with but who, unlike him, didn’t escape small-town poverty. And
> people should also be aware that while his convention speech on
> Wednesday denounced “Wall Street barons,” his rise has to a large extent
> been orchestrated by a group of tech billionaires; he’s a protégé of
> Peter Thiel.
>
> “Hillbilly Elegy” was part personal memoir, part social commentary and,
> to be fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of
> generations, something has gone very wrong in much of rural and
> small-town America. There has been a sharp rise in the fraction of men
> in their prime working years without jobs, notably in the eastern part
> of the American heartland. Social problems have proliferated; as the
> economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented, there has been a surge
> in “deaths of despair,” which they defined as deaths from drugs, alcohol
> and suicide.
>
> What happened? I’d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many
> small towns’ reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan
> years and isn’t unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity
> led, in turn, to social dysfunction — echoing the earlier rise in social
> dysfunction in America’s cities when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.
>
> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to
> ameliorate the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden
> administration has been doing just that, with much of its industrial
> policy aimed at helping depressed areas. Among other things, a Biden
> administration grant of up to $575 million — partly financed by
> legislation Republicans unanimously opposed — will help upgrade a steel
> plant in Vance’s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>
> And let’s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance
> only thanks to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>
> But in “Hillbilly Elegy,” Vance rejected the “cultural movement in the
> white working class to blame problems on society or the government.”
> Instead, he argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who
> have nobody to blame but themselves. They’re lazy: “You can walk through
> a town where 30 percent of the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week
> and find not a single person aware of his own laziness.” They’re poorly
> educated, not because of a lack of opportunity, but because they aren’t
> motivated: “We don’t study as children, and we don’t make our kids study
> when we’re parents.”
>
> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>
> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white
> working class isn’t lazy, it’s a victim of external forces. He became
> vehement about accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going
> to the native born.
>
> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal
> immigrants are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn’t
> acknowledge that inflation has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and
> that nonsupervisory workers — especially low-wage workers — have seen
> their earnings, on average, rise more than prices.
>
> In fact, immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the
> native-born remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born
> Americans are leaving the work force, it’s largely because baby boomers
> are retiring.
>
> And it’s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of
> small-town and rural America, which began long before the recent surge
> in immigration, and where even now there are relatively few immigrants
> to be seen. In Vance’s home state, only 5 percent of the population is
> foreign-born, compared with around 40 percent in New York City.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>
> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How
> charming.
>
Three: Elon Musk has pledged $45 million / mo. to the Republican race.
This guy is your typical con artist. He uses his fame on facebook to
get $500 gift cards out of each supporter. His line is that he will
help you after you help him. He is CEO of Tesla, the failed Electronic
Vehicle make. It's a case of someone wanting to go big, but the facts
say he is CEO of a large mess of fiery automobiles. I'm pretty sure
they melt in the rain or driving through high water. He needs to house
the electricity, but instead it is accessible via the simplest means.
Useful to anyone who wants to 'catch the bus' so to speak.

On 7/18/2024 9:14 PM, Zersterer wrote:
> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become “America’s Hitler.” Now
>> he’s Trump’s running mate. But never mind that history. Trump and Vance have a
>> lot of things, including this, in common: They’re both con men who despise
>> their most avid supporters.
>>
>> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major figure
>> in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump believes the false
>> things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he has pulled off a
>> monumental political bait-and-switch.
>>
>> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there’s a fairly good chance that, given
>> Trump’s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and — yes — his age,
>> Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.
>>
>> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot about
>> his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in “Hillbilly
>> Elegy,” which shows startling contempt for the people he grew up with but who,
>> unlike him, didn’t escape small-town poverty. And people should also be aware
>> that while his convention speech on Wednesday denounced “Wall Street barons,”
>> his rise has to a large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech
>> billionaires; he’s a protégé of Peter Thiel.
>>
>> “Hillbilly Elegy” was part personal memoir, part social commentary and, to be
>> fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of generations,
>> something has gone very wrong in much of rural and small-town America. There
>> has been a sharp rise in the fraction of men in their prime working years
>> without jobs, notably in the eastern part of the American heartland. Social
>> problems have proliferated; as the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton
>> documented, there has been a surge in “deaths of despair,” which they defined
>> as deaths from drugs, alcohol and suicide.
>>
>> What happened? I’d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many small
>> towns’ reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan years and
>> isn’t unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity led, in turn,
>> to social dysfunction — echoing the earlier rise in social dysfunction in
>> America’s cities when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.
>>
>> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to ameliorate
>> the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden administration has
>> been doing just that, with much of its industrial policy aimed at helping
>> depressed areas. Among other things, a Biden administration grant of up to
>> $575 million — partly financed by legislation Republicans unanimously opposed
>> — will help upgrade a steel plant in Vance’s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>>
>> And let’s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance only
>> thanks to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>>
>> But in “Hillbilly Elegy,” Vance rejected the “cultural movement in the white
>> working class to blame problems on society or the government.” Instead, he
>> argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who have nobody to blame
>> but themselves. They’re lazy: “You can walk through a town where 30 percent of
>> the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person
>> aware of his own laziness.” They’re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
>> opportunity, but because they aren’t motivated: “We don’t study as children,
>> and we don’t make our kids study when we’re parents.”
>>
>> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>>
>> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white
>> working class isn’t lazy, it’s a victim of external forces. He became vehement
>> about accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going to the native born.
>>
>> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal
>> immigrants are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn’t acknowledge
>> that inflation has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and that
>> nonsupervisory workers — especially low-wage workers — have seen their
>> earnings, on average, rise more than prices.
>>
>> In fact, immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the native-born
>> remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born Americans are
>> leaving the work force, it’s largely because baby boomers are retiring.
>>
>> And it’s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of small-town
>> and rural America, which began long before the recent surge in immigration,
>> and where even now there are relatively few immigrants to be seen. In Vance’s
>> home state, only 5 percent of the population is foreign-born, compared with
>> around 40 percent in New York City.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>>
>> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How charming.
>>
> Three:  Elon Musk has pledged $45 million / mo. to the Republican race. This guy
> is your typical con artist.  He uses his fame on facebook to get $500 gift cards
> out of each supporter.  His line is that he will help you after you help him.
> He is CEO of Tesla, the failed Electronic Vehicle make.  It's a case of someone
> wanting to go big, but the facts say he is CEO of a large mess of fiery
> automobiles.  I'm pretty sure they melt in the rain or driving through high
> water.  He needs to house the electricity, but instead it is accessible via the
> simplest means. Useful to anyone who wants to 'catch the bus' so to speak.

I think Musk is going to be the next target of a second amendment patriot.

On 2024-07-19, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> In article <5EimO.59324$q2da.52433@fx18.iad>, rudy@phil.hendrie.con
> says...
>>
>> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become ?America?s Hitler.? Now
>> he?s Trump?s running mate. But never mind that history. Trump and Vance have a
>> lot of things, including this, in common: They?re both con men who despise their
>> most avid supporters.
>>
>> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical major figure
>> in modern American politics. You never know whether Trump believes the false
>> things he says; Vance is smart enough to know that he has pulled off a
>> monumental political bait-and-switch.
>>
>> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there?s a fairly good chance that, given
>> Trump?s evident lack of interest in the details of policy and ? yes ? his age,
>> Vance will, one way or another, end up running the country.
>>
>> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a lot about
>> his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he wrote in ?Hillbilly
>> Elegy,? which shows startling contempt for the people he grew up with but who,
>> unlike him, didn?t escape small-town poverty. And people should also be aware
>> that while his convention speech on Wednesday denounced ?Wall Street barons,?
>> his rise has to a large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech
>> billionaires; he?s a protégé of Peter Thiel.
>>
>> ?Hillbilly Elegy? was part personal memoir, part social commentary and, to be
>> fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple of generations,
>> something has gone very wrong in much of rural and small-town America. There has
>> been a sharp rise in the fraction of men in their prime working years without
>> jobs, notably in the eastern part of the American heartland. Social problems
>> have proliferated; as the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented,
>> there has been a surge in ?deaths of despair,? which they defined as deaths from
>> drugs, alcohol and suicide.
>>
>> What happened? I?d focus on changes in the economy that undermined many small
>> towns? reason for being, a process that began during the Reagan years and isn?t
>> unique to our country. This loss of economic opportunity led, in turn, to social
>> dysfunction ? echoing the earlier rise in social dysfunction in America?s cities
>> when blue-collar urban jobs disappeared.
>>
>> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to ameliorate
>> the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden administration has been
>> doing just that, with much of its industrial policy aimed at helping depressed
>> areas. Among other things, a Biden administration grant of up to $575 million ?
>> partly financed by legislation Republicans unanimously opposed ? will help
>> upgrade a steel plant in Vance?s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>>
>> And let?s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance only thanks
>> to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>>
>> But in ?Hillbilly Elegy,? Vance rejected the ?cultural movement in the white
>> working class to blame problems on society or the government.? Instead, he
>> argued, there are lots of small-town white Americans who have nobody to blame
>> but themselves. They?re lazy: ?You can walk through a town where 30 percent of
>> the young men work fewer than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware
>> of his own laziness.? They?re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
>> opportunity, but because they aren?t motivated: ?We don?t study as children, and
>> we don?t make our kids study when we?re parents.?
>>
>> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>>
>> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the white working
>> class isn?t lazy, it?s a victim of external forces. He became vehement about
>> accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should be going to the native born.
>>
>> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal immigrants
>> are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn?t acknowledge that inflation
>> has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022, and that nonsupervisory workers ?
>> especially low-wage workers ? have seen their earnings, on average, rise more
>> than prices.
>>
>> In fact, immigrants aren?t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the native-born
>> remains near a historic low. To the extent that native-born Americans are
>> leaving the work force, it?s largely because baby boomers are retiring.
>>
>> And it?s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of small-town
>> and rural America, which began long before the recent surge in immigration, and
>> where even now there are relatively few immigrants to be seen. In Vance?s home
>> state, only 5 percent of the population is foreign-born, compared with around 40
>> percent in New York City.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>>
>> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket. How charming.
>
> You're a fucking joke.
>
That he is.

The libbys hate everything about a person like JD Vance.
Super intelligent.
Top tier eduction.
Military service.
Highly educated wife.
Family.
Built a life and career from nothing.

The above check all the boxes that will bring on the libby hate.

--
pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.

Rudy Canoza wrote:

> J.D. Vance once feared that Donald Trump might become “America’s
> Hitler.” Now he’s Trump’s running mate. But never mind that history.
> Trump and Vance have a lot of things, including this, in common:
> They’re both con men who despise their most avid supporters.
>
> Indeed, Vance, despite stiff competition, may be the most cynical
> major figure in modern American politics. You never know whether
> Trump believes the false things he says; Vance is smart enough to
> know that he has pulled off a monumental political bait-and-switch.
>
> And if the Trump-Vance ticket wins, there’s a fairly good chance
> that, given Trump’s evident lack of interest in the details of policy
> and — yes — his age, Vance will, one way or another, end up running
> the country.
>
> So, about that con: Vance, now the junior senator from Ohio, talks a
> lot about his hardscrabble roots. But people should read what he
> wrote in “Hillbilly Elegy,” which shows startling contempt for the
> people he grew up with but who, unlike him, didn’t escape small-town
> poverty. And people should also be aware that while his convention
> speech on Wednesday denounced “Wall Street barons,” his rise has to a
> large extent been orchestrated by a group of tech billionaires; he’s
> a protégé of Peter Thiel.
>
> “Hillbilly Elegy” was part personal memoir, part social commentary
> and, to be fair, it responded to a real issue. Over the past couple
> of generations, something has gone very wrong in much of rural and
> small-town America. There has been a sharp rise in the fraction of
> men in their prime working years without jobs, notably in the eastern
> part of the American heartland. Social problems have proliferated; as
> the economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton documented, there has been
> a surge in “deaths of despair,” which they defined as deaths from
> drugs, alcohol and suicide.
>
> What happened? I’d focus on changes in the economy that undermined
> many small towns’ reason for being, a process that began during the
> Reagan years and isn’t unique to our country. This loss of economic
> opportunity led, in turn, to social dysfunction — echoing the earlier
> rise in social dysfunction in America’s cities when blue-collar urban
> jobs disappeared.
>
> These issues are real, and we should be making a national effort to
> ameliorate the problems of left-behind regions. Actually, the Biden
> administration has been doing just that, with much of its industrial
> policy aimed at helping depressed areas. Among other things, a Biden
> administration grant of up to $575 million — partly financed by
> legislation Republicans unanimously opposed — will help upgrade a
> steel plant in Vance’s hometown, Middletown, Ohio.
>
> And let’s not forget that many rural Americans have health insurance
> only thanks to policies Republicans fiercely opposed.
>
> But in “Hillbilly Elegy,” Vance rejected the “cultural movement in
> the white working class to blame problems on society or the
> government.” Instead, he argued, there are lots of small-town white
> Americans who have nobody to blame but themselves. They’re lazy: “You
> can walk through a town where 30 percent of the young men work fewer
> than 20 hours a week and find not a single person aware of his own
> laziness.” They’re poorly educated, not because of a lack of
> opportunity, but because they aren’t motivated: “We don’t study as
> children, and we don’t make our kids study when we’re parents.”
>
> Imagine the reaction if a liberal Democrat were to say any of that.
>
> After entering politics, however, Vance suddenly decided that the
> white working class isn’t lazy, it’s a victim of external forces. He
> became vehement about accusing immigrants of taking jobs that should
> be going to the native born.
>
> One passage in his convention speech appeared to suggest that illegal
> immigrants are responsible for inflation. Of course, he didn’t
> acknowledge that inflation has fallen by two-thirds since mid-2022,
> and that nonsupervisory workers — especially low-wage workers — have
> seen their earnings, on average, rise more than prices.
>
> In fact, immigrants aren’t taking our jobs. Unemployment among the
> native-born remains near a historic low. To the extent that
> native-born Americans are leaving the work force, it’s largely
> because baby boomers are retiring.
>
> And it’s especially strange to blame immigrants for the problems of
> small-town and rural America, which began long before the recent
> surge in immigration, and where even now there are relatively few
> immigrants to be seen. In Vance’s home state, only 5 percent of the
> population is foreign-born, compared with around 40 percent in New
> York City.
>
>
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/18/opinion/jd-vance-hillbilly-elegy.html
>
> Two fucking con artists at the top of the Republiscum/QAnon ticket.
> How charming.

I need dick to suck!