SANTA FE —

The involuntary manslaughter case against “Rust” star Alec Baldwin was dismissed
by a judge Friday after the actor’s defense attorneys raised new questions over
how New Mexico law enforcement officers and prosecutors handled evidence.

The decision ends a nearly three year-long ordeal for the “30 Rock” and “Hunt
for Red October” star, which began in October 2021 when he accidentally shot
cinematographer Halyna Hutchins with a prop revolver during a rehearsal for the
low-budget western.

Baldwin’s attorneys accused the state of misconduct, pointing to a batch of
unexamined bullets that a potential witness turned over to sheriff’s
investigators months ago. New Mexico First Judicial District Court Judge Mary
Marlowe Sommer appeared furious over the handling of the evidence, which was not
given to the defense.

Baldwin broke down in tears as the judge explained her reasoning for scrapping
the case.

“There is no way for the court to right this wrong,” Marlowe Sommer said.

Amid the scrutiny during the high-profile criminal trial, one of the state’s two
special prosecutors — Erlinda O. Johnson — resigned from the case Friday afternoon.

Special prosecutor Kari T. Morrissey, who oversaw the case, told a throng of
journalists outside the courthouse that she respected the judge’s decision but
disagreed with it, saying there was “absolutely no evidence that any of that
ammunition” was related to the “Rust” shooting.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-07-12/alec-baldwin-trial-rust-santa-fe-investigation-missteps-bullets-evidence

The dismissal was with prejudice, so that's the end of the case — charges can't
be brought again. Ha ha ha ha ha!

I don't really care one way or another, as far as Baldwin is concerned. I'm
neither a Baldwin fan or an anti-Baldwin fan. I figured if the prosecution could
make a case, they should. A woman died, and Baldwin held the gun that fired the
round that killed her. If he had been acquitted, I would have shrugged. If he
had been convicted, I also would have shrugged.

But what I *like* about this outcome is the rage it causes right-wingnuts like
Hartung. They didn't know any great details about this case, nor do any of their
finger-wagging lectures about "gun safety" and who has responsibility on the set
have any weight. They hate Baldwin because he ridicules their hero Trump and
other right-wingnut shitbags, so they wanted him to go down, and to hell with
whether the case against him was sound or not. And so now they're going to be
screaming in rage that he "got away with it." And maybe he did, but for the
misery it causes them, I'm glad he did.

In article <v6sdm4$38140$1@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>
> SANTA FE ?
>
> The involuntary manslaughter case against ?Rust? star Alec Baldwin was dismissed
> by a judge Friday after the actor?s defense attorneys raised new questions over
> how New Mexico law enforcement officers and prosecutors handled evidence.
>
> The decision ends a nearly three year-long ordeal for the ?30 Rock? and ?Hunt
> for Red October? star, which began in October 2021 when he accidentally shot
> cinematographer Halyna Hutchins with a prop revolver during a rehearsal for the
> low-budget western.
>
> Baldwin?s attorneys accused the state of misconduct, pointing to a batch of
> unexamined bullets that a potential witness turned over to sheriff?s
> investigators months ago. New Mexico First Judicial District Court Judge Mary
> Marlowe Sommer appeared furious over the handling of the evidence, which was not
> given to the defense.
>
> Baldwin broke down in tears as the judge explained her reasoning for scrapping
> the case.
>
> ?There is no way for the court to right this wrong,? Marlowe Sommer said.
>
> Amid the scrutiny during the high-profile criminal trial, one of the state?s two
> special prosecutors ? Erlinda O. Johnson ? resigned from the case Friday afternoon.
>
> Special prosecutor Kari T. Morrissey, who oversaw the case, told a throng of
> journalists outside the courthouse that she respected the judge?s decision but
> disagreed with it, saying there was ?absolutely no evidence that any of that
> ammunition? was related to the ?Rust? shooting.
>
> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-07-12/alec-baldwin-trial-rust-santa-fe-investigation-missteps-bullets-evidence
>
> The dismissal was with prejudice, so that's the end of the case ? charges can't
> be brought again. Ha ha ha ha ha!
>
> I don't really care one way or another, as far as Baldwin is concerned. I'm
> neither a Baldwin fan or an anti-Baldwin fan. I figured if the prosecution could
> make a case, they should. A woman died, and Baldwin held the gun that fired the
> round that killed her. If he had been acquitted, I would have shrugged. If he
> had been convicted, I also would have shrugged.
>
> But what I *like* about this outcome is the rage it causes right-wingnuts like
> Hartung. They didn't know any great details about this case, nor do any of their
> finger-wagging lectures about "gun safety" and who has responsibility on the set
> have any weight. They hate Baldwin because he ridicules their hero Trump and
> other right-wingnut shitbags, so they wanted him to go down, and to hell with
> whether the case against him was sound or not. And so now they're going to be
> screaming in rage that he "got away with it." And maybe he did, but for the
> misery it causes them, I'm glad he did.

Good. Justice prevails.

On 12 Jul 2024, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> posted some
news:6691c34f$0$7064$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <v6sdm4$38140$1@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>>
>> SANTA FE ?
>>
>> The involuntary manslaughter case against ?Rust? star Alec Baldwin
>> was dismissed by a judge Friday after the actor?s defense attorneys
>> raised new questions over how New Mexico law enforcement officers and
>> prosecutors handled evidence.
>>
>> The decision ends a nearly three year-long ordeal for the ?30 Rock?
>> and ?Hunt for Red October? star, which began in October 2021 when he
>> accidentally shot cinematographer Halyna Hutchins with a prop
>> revolver during a rehearsal for the low-budget western.
>>
>> Baldwin?s attorneys accused the state of misconduct, pointing to a
>> batch of unexamined bullets that a potential witness turned over to
>> sheriff?s investigators months ago. New Mexico First Judicial
>> District Court Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer appeared furious over the
>> handling of the evidence, which was not given to the defense.
>>
>> Baldwin broke down in tears as the judge explained her reasoning for
>> scrapping the case.
>>
>> ?There is no way for the court to right this wrong,? Marlowe Sommer
>> said.
>>
>> Amid the scrutiny during the high-profile criminal trial, one of the
>> state?s two special prosecutors ? Erlinda O. Johnson ? resigned from
>> the case Friday afternoon.
>>
>> Special prosecutor Kari T. Morrissey, who oversaw the case, told a
>> throng of journalists outside the courthouse that she respected the
>> judge?s decision but disagreed with it, saying there was ?absolutely
>> no evidence that any of that ammunition? was related to the ?Rust?
>> shooting.
>>
>> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-07-12/a
>> lec-baldwin-trial-rust-santa-fe-investigation-missteps-bullets-evidenc
>> e
>>
>> The dismissal was with prejudice, so that's the end of the case ?
>> charges can't be brought again. Ha ha ha ha ha!
>>
>> I don't really care one way or another, as far as Baldwin is
>> concerned. I'm neither a Baldwin fan or an anti-Baldwin fan. I
>> figured if the prosecution could make a case, they should. A woman
>> died, and Baldwin held the gun that fired the round that killed her.
>> If he had been acquitted, I would have shrugged. If he had been
>> convicted, I also would have shrugged.
>>
>> But what I *like* about this outcome is the rage it causes
>> right-wingnuts like Hartung. They didn't know any great details about
>> this case, nor do any of their finger-wagging lectures about "gun
>> safety" and who has responsibility on the set have any weight. They
>> hate Baldwin because he ridicules their hero Trump and other
>> right-wingnut shitbags, so they wanted him to go down, and to hell
>> with whether the case against him was sound or not. And so now
>> they're going to be screaming in rage that he "got away with it." And
>> maybe he did, but for the misery it causes them, I'm glad he did.
>
> Good. Justice prevails.

Now the fun begins. Civil lawsuits just like they went after Trump. He
hasn't gotten away with it - yet. He tried to get a piece of ass off her,
she turned him down so he shot her.

On 2024-07-12, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> But what I *like* about this outcome is the rage it causes right-wingnuts
> like Hartung. They didn't know any great details about this case, nor do any
> of their finger-wagging lectures about "gun safety" and who has
> responsibility on the set have any weight. They hate Baldwin because he
> ridicules their hero Trump and other right-wingnut shitbags, so they wanted
> him to go down, and to hell with whether the case against him was sound or
> not. And so now they're going to be screaming in rage that he "got away with
> it." And maybe he did, but for the misery it causes them, I'm glad he did.

Probably not nearly the misery caused by that woman's death. There are no
winners here. A lot of ignorance on this set and no one is willing to take the
blame. You never point a gun at anyone, including when it's supposed to be
fake and for a movie.

On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 10:30:06 -0000 (UTC), Percy <MasterP@NoLimitSoldiers.com> wrote:

>On 2024-07-12, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> But what I *like* about this outcome is the rage it causes right-wingnuts
>> like Hartung. They didn't know any great details about this case, nor do any
>> of their finger-wagging lectures about "gun safety" and who has
>> responsibility on the set have any weight. They hate Baldwin because he
>> ridicules their hero Trump and other right-wingnut shitbags, so they wanted
>> him to go down, and to hell with whether the case against him was sound or
>> not. And so now they're going to be screaming in rage that he "got away with
>> it." And maybe he did, but for the misery it causes them, I'm glad he did.
>
>Probably not nearly the misery caused by that woman's death. There are no
>winners here. A lot of ignorance on this set and no one is willing to take the
>blame.

One person has gone to prison for it. Pity the prosecution botched their case and angered
a judge.

>You never point a gun at anyone, including when it's supposed to be
>fake and for a movie.

Sound advice.

Swill

Governor Swill wrote:
> Sound advice.
>
> Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.

Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california

Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

On 7/14/2024 3:30 AM, Percy wrote:
> On 2024-07-12, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>> But what I *like* about this outcome is the rage it causes right-wingnuts
>> like Hartung. They didn't know any great details about this case, nor do any
>> of their finger-wagging lectures about "gun safety" and who has
>> responsibility on the set have any weight. They hate Baldwin because he
>> ridicules their hero Trump and other right-wingnut shitbags, so they wanted
>> him to go down, and to hell with whether the case against him was sound or
>> not. And so now they're going to be screaming in rage that he "got away with
>> it." And maybe he did, but for the misery it causes them, I'm glad he did.
>
> Probably not nearly the misery caused by that woman's death. There are no
> winners here. A lot of ignorance on this set and no one is willing to take the
> blame. You never point a gun at anyone, including when it's supposed to be
> fake and for a movie.

You point the gun where the director tells you to point it, you stupid fuckwit.

Lou Bricano wrote:
> You point the gun where the director tells you to point it, you stupid
> fuckwit.

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.... but the stupid bitch missed.

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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.