On 6/29/2024 12:06 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:24:21 -0400, "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:667f16b8$0$3620713$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> In article <bs4u7j5dagsf0umbm62lt9qcl6jlkhqfvi@4ax.com>,
>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:47:25 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 12:17:17 -0400, "Scout"
>>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but the difference is my parents entered legally though Ellis
>>>>>>> island..
>>>>>>> they didn't illegally enter the country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What were the entry requirements at that time? What was US
>>>>>> immigration policy?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Who cares? The law is the law.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So you're afraid to answer the question?
>>
>> No, I just filter you out due to your conduct.
>
> You filter me out because I repeatedly correct you. For example, in your recent post
> about gas prices, you faked the prices you gave out. I corrected them in a following
> post. You don't get to see where I catch you out in your distortions and
> *coughmistakescough*, but everybody else does because you can only filter me from YOUR
> feed.
>
>> Like the above. My ancestors obeyed the law and entered legally... You
>> support illegal entry..
>
> No, I don't, and if you didn't have me filtered, you would know that.
>
>> and you can't or refuse to see the difference.
>
> Irrelevant to my views.

When scooter and Hartung and "pothole" and BlueBitch and any of the other
right-wingnuts start blabbering about "legal vs illegal" immigration, it's
bullshit. Like Trump, they don't want *any* immigration, because the immigrants
are all non-white. Their phony focus on "legal vs illegal" is nothing but a red
herring.

>> So let me spell it out for you. One is legal, the other is criminal.... so
>> we want immigrants that will obey the law or immigrants that violate our
>> laws?
>>
>> It's a very simple and basic concept.
>
> And my point is that we should return to the immigration policies of the post Civil War
> era. The vast majority of illegal immigration today is because white Anglos fear
> "contamination" of their purity by brown, non English speaking non Protestants. When the
> massive influx of immigrants, such as our forbears, were white, Christian and came from
> northern and western Europe, there wasn't a problem.
>
> But then a wave of Catholics and Orthodox eastern Europe started flowing in along with
> "olive" skinned Mediterraneans and the white Fundies got the heebie jeebies.
>
> Current immigration policy is ethnic and religious based and is a mistake.
>
>>> See? You puppets take something and twist it around. The law says enter
>>> at the proper points of entry. It always has. Just follow the law. You
>>> cross anywhere else you get sent back or arrested. Pretty simple.
>>
>> And yet, they can't seem to grasp the concept that some ways are legal, and
>> other ways are illegal... it's like there is no crime.
>>
>> I mean if I decided to murder him.. would he accept my right to do so just
>> because it might benefit me?
>
> Murder who?
>
>>>> Once again you prove how cowardly you are.
>>>
>>> How so? Explain.
>>
>> He apparently thinks no one should be filtered, and have a moral obligation
>> to answer anyone. I notice he hasn't answered your questions so by his own
>> standards would that make him a coward?
>
> I answer plenty. In fact, Skeeter and I have entered into some dialog and gotten away
> from the insult tossing and knee jerk reactions we have up to now been engaging in.
>
> See, that's the difference. I'm up for intelligent discourse, but if you start tossing
> out talking points and slogans without consideration for the actual issues, you can go
> fuck yourself.
>
> There are no simple answers, only simple minds.
>
> Swill
> NP: Beatles - Savoy Truffle

J Carlson wrote:
> On 6/26/2024 4:12 PM, Chips Loral wrote:
>> J Carlson wrote:
>>>
>>> You're stupid because you want to be stupid.
>>
>>>> Means nothing.
>>>
>>> Means Trump is shot.
>>
>>  > Getting rid of Trump permanently
>>  > is an important step to getting there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President
>
> No, spammy, it does not.
>
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.... but the stupid bitch missed.

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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

J Carlson wrote:
> it does not.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson and a dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.