On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:08:22 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>news:ku9c7j9diqmhbjue83fb8afqs95hbmebsa@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:50:33 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>news:c1g97jt0aeq0unru7nnh4qb9n1ifq6j980@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 09:27:46 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>It was worse under Obama and his predecessors. It was on the way down
>>>>>under
>>>>>Trump.
>>>>
>>>>It's mind boggling to see how much of Trump's candy you suck on.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Candy? Like the MSM kool aid?
>>
>>I ignore the MSM, as you call it. There are too many other ways of getting
>>information.
>>
>
>Really? Funny how you badmouth Trump like the MSM.

Yeah, I do. That's because his status as a criminal asshole white supremacist isn't mere
MSM propaganda, but is my opinion based on multiple reports across the entire political
spectrum including what his own sycophants have to say about him.

I don't agree with leftists because they're left any more than I disagree with rightists
just because they're on the right. I listen to both, corroborate what I can and make up
my own mind. I have no handlers telling me what to think.

Swill
NP: Peter Gabriel - Kiss That Frog (Secret World Live)

On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:36:26 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:

>You guys should get rid of the DOJ entirely. Just get a 'medium' or
>what ever you call them, and let them tell you who did it.

Why are you even responding to some conspiracist idiot who believes in ESP?

Swill

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:19:48 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>news:r3ac7jlmtrmte93vnhts5em88gkdqbthc7@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:57:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Discrediting sources is the government's number one tactic for burying
>>>information that they don't
>>>approve of.
>>
>>The *government's* number one tactic?
>>
>>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>
>
>You call yourself Governor but obviously know nothing about governments,
>except what they portray to the public. It's fake.
>Like Michael Jackson said, they don't care about us.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. I don't mean to say that government doesn't use
that tactic, but that it's hardly a government exclusive. Partisans, left and right do it
all the time. Not that it isn't appropriate in some cases. When a fool come in here
trying to use WND or GP as source for a story, the only appropriate actions are to laugh
them out of the room or improve the gene poll by shooting them dead.

Swill
NP: Peter Gabriel - Washing Of The Water (Secret World)

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:27:46 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Your type only accept convenient mainstream stuff.

That's because much if not most of what we get from the far left and far right is
bullshit.

The facts and the truth are both found much closer to the middle.

Swill
NP: Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill (Secret World Live)

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:25:29 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>"Baxter" wrote in message news:v543qj$376qj$3@dont-email.me...
>>
>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in news:v5313l$30qr3$1@dont-
>>email.me:
>>
>>> "Baxter" wrote in message news:v52rc2$2vlkp$5@dont-email.me...
>>>>
>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>news:v52pf4$2vibu$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It's not the same people who are talking about it, dummy. Geez.
>>>>> In some cases people who no longer work for gov. and CIA etc. have
>>>>> come forward about it, at great risk to themselves and their
>>families.
>>>>> Many have been murdered as a result.
>>>>>
>>>>Murdered? That's a load of horse shit.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And how are you so sure of that?
>>> Just another mainstream follower.
>>
>>Where's YOUR evidence? Go ahead, post references to these killers
>>>
>
>Where's your thinking ability?

Even the best thinking abilities require evidence.

Where's yours?

>>>>We here those conspiracy theories
>>>>all the time,
>>>>
>>>
>>> The MSM and gov. keep claiming they're only conspiracy theories and you
>>> never question or research it.
>>
>>They have been researched extensively.
>>
>
>Yes, but not by sheep like you.

Nor by sheep like you who buy every bit of drama you're fed because real investigation is
too difficult, too time consuming, and takes too long. Conspiracy theories cannot stand
the fact that sometimes we *can't* know the truth because there aren't enough facts.

>>>>never any facts to back them. Vince Foster anyong?

>>> The MSM that you follow doesn't give any facts.

That's all they give. The fact free zones are the hard right and hard left.

Alex Jones is as fact free as Wonkette. In a perfect world, neither would exist.

>>What you call "facts" are bogus conspiracy theories - not actual facts.

>You never looked into it so you can't claim that.

Prove it. Prove that he's never done any of that research. Clearly you haven't.

>You just repeat the
>mainstream smear and disinformation campaign for the masses.

While you just repeat the right wing smear and disinformation campaign for the masses.

Swill
NP: Peter Gabriel - Digging In The Dirt (Secret World Live)

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:30:04 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>"Governor Swill" wrote
>>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 14:55:11 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The MSM and gov. keep claiming they're only conspiracy theories and you
>>>never question or research it.
>>
>>Yeah, we do and yes, they are.
>>
>
>Pretend research on Google is not research. Do you know who controls Google
>and other large info/media corporations?

So to you, anything presented by anybody with power or influence is a lie?

Swill

In article <fmog7jtsu626nke590rfa1jvaa4kj6ujpo@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:19:48 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
> >"Governor Swill" wrote in message
> >news:r3ac7jlmtrmte93vnhts5em88gkdqbthc7@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:57:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>Discrediting sources is the government's number one tactic for burying
> >>>information that they don't
> >>>approve of.
> >>
> >>The *government's* number one tactic?
> >>
> >>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
> >>
> >
> >You call yourself Governor but obviously know nothing about governments,
> >except what they portray to the public. It's fake.
> >Like Michael Jackson said, they don't care about us.
>
> Your reading comprehension is lacking. I don't mean to say that government doesn't use
> that tactic, but that it's hardly a government exclusive. Partisans, left and right do it
> all the time. Not that it isn't appropriate in some cases. When a fool come in here
> trying to use WND or GP as source for a story, the only appropriate actions are to laugh
> them out of the room or improve the gene poll by shooting them dead.
>
> Swill
> NP: Peter Gabriel - Washing Of The Water (Secret World)

Bring it bitch.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:33:14 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>news:g1ac7jpecosf0pl7n78tkure10e9gqoanr@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:44:31 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>It's not the same people who are talking about it, dummy. Geez.
>>>In some cases people who no longer work for gov. and CIA etc. have come
>>>forward about it, at great risk to themselves and their families. Many
>>>have
>>>been murdered as a result.
>>
>>You can't prove any of that either.
>>
>
>There's no need to prove it. Just start using your brain and look into
>things.

LOL! "I believe it because I want to. I don't need proof. All I need is my own
fantasies and a great, big lazy streak!"

>Only the lazy and ignorant demand proof for everything, except for what
>establishments claim.

It the educated, the motivated, the truly curious who seek answers and demand evidence for
any conclusion they're offered. The lazy are the sheep that just sit back, drool and
accept whatever they're fed.

Swill
NP: Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer (Secret World Live)

In article <h8sg7jtsqpe2gbk7krlsor72opoq731tko@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:33:14 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
> >"Governor Swill" wrote in message
> >news:g1ac7jpecosf0pl7n78tkure10e9gqoanr@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:44:31 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>It's not the same people who are talking about it, dummy. Geez.
> >>>In some cases people who no longer work for gov. and CIA etc. have come
> >>>forward about it, at great risk to themselves and their families. Many
> >>>have
> >>>been murdered as a result.
> >>
> >>You can't prove any of that either.
> >>
> >
> >There's no need to prove it. Just start using your brain and look into
> >things.
>
> LOL! "I believe it because I want to. I don't need proof. All I need is my own
> fantasies and a great, big lazy streak!"
>
> >Only the lazy and ignorant demand proof for everything, except for what
> >establishments claim.
>
> It the educated, the motivated, the truly curious who seek answers and demand evidence for
> any conclusion they're offered. The lazy are the sheep that just sit back, drool and
> accept whatever they're fed.
>
> Swill
> NP: Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer (Secret World Live)

Sounds just like a liberal. Or Rudy and you.

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:38:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>A typical response from one who only looks at stuff the mainstream media and
>science puts out.

This from the sheep who thinks whatever he's told to think. Who refuses to even consider
facts.

>Unbribed/uncontrolled/uninfluenced alt sources are where the real truths
>are.

That's where the lies are. You think Alex Jones is unbribed? Where did you think his
millions came from? Vitamin pills?

The controls of the MSM are there for reasons. They can't just run off half cocked and
report whatever they want or "feel" is right without being held accountable. They have to
report the facts and provide even handed coverage. They have their readers and their
competitors to answer to.

>Do you ever question the establishments?

Constantly.

> Your type only seem to question those who go against them.

I question EVERYBODY. You question only consensus.

> Says a lot.

Cart before the horse.

I don't agree with the establishment because they are the establishment.

I don't go against the lunatic fringe because they're on the fringe but because they can't
provide solid evidence for their reporting.

YOU, otoh, go against the establishment precisely *because* they're the establishment. You
don't care about evidence or facts. You seem to find the fantasies and half baked ideas
from the lunatic fringe more palatable than the simple facts.

"Reality is an acquired taste" - Matthew Perry

Clues: Atlantis is today known as Santorini and never had nuclear power, Oswald killed
Kennedy, Vince Foster was a suicide and the 2020 election was not rigged.

Swill
NP: Peter Gabriel - Secret World (Secret World Live)

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:03:40 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>Because you only accept mainstream sources, ones that align with your
>limited beliefs and prejudice.

The irony is beyond belief . . .

Swill
NP: Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes (sometimes the song is the right one)

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 11:09:37 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:
>Andrew W wrote:
>>Malte Runz wrote:
>>>Who are "they" in this case?
>>
>>Clueless as usual.
>
>"They" is a very generic term in you circles. Could be anyone.

Precisely. For me, the #1 reason to suspect what I'm being told is when I hear the word
"they" a lot. Those sorts of rumor mongers never can say exactly who "they" are, but
"they" are apparently a journalist/professional investigator with a masters degree in
everything.

Swill
NP: America - Tin Man

On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 14:46:44 -0600, CaLaVeRa <cv@invalid.org> wrote:

>https://www.citizen.org/article/military-industrial-complex-contributions-report/
>
>JULY 7, 2022
>
>Military-Industrial Complex Clinches Nearly 450,000% Return on Investment
>After Industry Gives $10 Million to Congressional Defense Committee
>Members, DOD Receives Potential $45 Billion Spending Increase

Why should anybody believe them? They can't even do basic math.

45,000,000,000 is 4,500 % of 10,000,000 not 450,000%.

When a publication makes that big an error, especially in an important headline and then
doesn't correct it, you know nothing they write is credible.

And of course even that ROI figure is wrong. That spending increase isn't pure profit.
Considering the defense industries run off margins of less than 10%, they actually got
less that half of their "bribe" money back.

Maybe 'citizen.org' should hire a third grade teacher to review their math from now on.

Swill
NP: Carole King - Corazón

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:17:57 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
>news:0l197j1842rael2umg10pjsfchdmim96d1@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:59:43 -0600, CaLaVeRa <cv@invalid.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/17/2024 1:11 PM, Malte Runz wrote:
>>>> The US economy is the envy of the world.
>>>> Bigger, stronger, and more robust than any other major player.
>>>
>>>Military industrial complex.
>>
>>https://tinyurl.com/2vdpmzf4
>>***
>>US Defense Industry Size & Share Analysis - Growth Trends & Forecasts
>>(2024 - 2032)
>>
>>The US Defense Market is Segmented by Armed Forces (Army, Navy, and
>>Air Force) and Type (Fixed-Wing Aircraft, Rotorcraft, Ground Vehicles,
>>Naval Vessels, C4isr, Weapons and Ammunition, Protection and Training
>>Equipment, and Unmanned Systems). The Report Offers Market Size and
>>Forecast for all the Above Segments in Value (USD).
>>
>>Market Size (2024): USD 309.77 Billion
>>***
>>
>>https://tinyurl.com/3hex9y8m
>>***
>>US arms exports hit record high in fiscal 2023
>>WASHINGTON, Jan 29 (Reuters) - Sales of U.S. military equipment to
>>foreign governments in 2023 rose 16% to a record $238 billion, the
>>U.S. State Department said on Monday, as countries sought to replenish
>>stocks sent to Ukraine and prepare for major conflicts.
>>***
>>
>>https://tinyurl.com/35hdmats
>>Estimated size of US GDP in 2024: 28,781.08 billion.
>>
>>IOW the "Military Industrial Complex' counts for just under 2% of the
>>US GDP.
>>
>
>Ever heard of black budgets and covert appropriations, Mr mainstream?

Yes.

Jimmy Carter axed the B-1 not because he wanted to save money, but because his
administration had become convinced by the Skunkworks project that stealth was a better
technology to invest in than size or airspeed. I bet you didn't read THAT in the NYT back
in the day!

Yes, that's right, it was Jimmy Carter's decision to complete development of what would
become the F-117 Nighthawk.

2024 defense budget: 825,000,000,000
2023 US GDP: 27,360,000,000,000

This works out to the defense budget accounting for 3% of US GDP using the most recent
figures available to me. Statista's GDP figure is a trillion or so off from the one I
used.

Swill

On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 11:15:23 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:17:57 +1000, "Andrew W" wrote:
>>"Malte Runz" wrote in message
<snip>
>>>IOW the "Military Industrial Complex' counts for just under 2% of the
>>>US GDP.
>>Ever heard of black budgets and covert appropriations, Mr mainstream?
>
>I'm sure this is another example of you having access to superduper
>top secret hush hush evidence of enormous amounts of dollars that are
>spent in the most evil ways possible by the cabal.

Andrew, if you don't believe the US defense dept is spending 825B this year, how much do
you believe they're spending and what are your sources for that information?

Swill
NP: Pablo Cruise - Atlanta June

On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 06:50:22 -0000 (UTC), Nikos Aliagas <nospam@oui.fr> wrote:

>Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
>news:v55ddp$3if4b$6@dont-email.me:
>
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> news:6675da81$0$212411$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> In article <v54fot$38mfs$11@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 6/21/2024 10:38 AM, Chips Loral wrote:
>>>> > Baxter wrote:
>>>> >> Now the video starts with Biden triping on a sandbag - how is
>>>> >> that comedic?
>>>> >
>>>> > How is leaving our borders open for invaders
>>>>
>>>> There are no "invaders," spammy, you stupid blowjob and feckless
>>>> cunt, and the borders are not open. Fuck off, cocksucker.
>>>
>>> So all those crossing are doing it legally?
>>>
>>
>> So what?! The LAW says, that if you're here you are allowed to apply
>> for asylum.
>
>You've never read the law or you wouldn't have written that.
>
>https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum

Perhaps you missed this sentence in your cite:

"You may only file this application if you are physically present in the United States,
and you are not a U.S. citizen."

Swill

On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 14:54:40 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Nikos Aliagas <nospam@oui.fr> wrote in news:v55s7d$3gdlk$5
>@news.mixmin.net:
>
>> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
>> news:v55ddp$3if4b$6@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:6675da81$0$212411$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <v54fot$38mfs$11@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/21/2024 10:38 AM, Chips Loral wrote:
>>>>> > Baxter wrote:
>>>>> >> Now the video starts with Biden triping on a sandbag - how is
>>>>> >> that comedic?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > How is leaving our borders open for invaders
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no "invaders," spammy, you stupid blowjob and feckless
>>>>> cunt, and the borders are not open. Fuck off, cocksucker.
>>>>
>>>> So all those crossing are doing it legally?
>>>>
>>>
>>> So what?! The LAW says, that if you're here you are allowed to apply
>>> for asylum.
>>
>> You've never read the law or you wouldn't have written that.
>>
>> https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum
>>
>
>Nothing in that reference contradicts what I wrote.

It reinforces it.

"You may only file this application if you are physically present in the United States,
and you are not a U.S. citizen."

Swill

On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 21:32:59 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>So you approve of the current situation at the border? You are ok with
>other countries letting there criminals come here? It doesn't bother you
>in the last 3 years more people from China and the Middle East have just
>walked in?

It's called brain drain. We're getting their best and brightest. They're seeking
opportunity in the United States that they can't get in their own far inferior countries.
Just as what happened in the mass migrations from Europe in the late 19th to mid 20th
centuries (escaping constant war and lack of economic opportunity).

These people are coming here to work. Are there bad apples? Yes, of course there are
just as there were in the folks migrating in the seventeenth through twentieth centuries.
The west wasn't wild because everybody was so pleasant and law abiding. There were plenty
of crims.

But the fact remains that these are people with the determination and willingness to
sacrifice everything they know to come here, be Americans and build America no less than
our ancestors who came here a century ago.

I welcome them and rather than allow only legal immigrants, I say we save ourselves some
time and effort and just legalize the immigrants we're already getting.

Swill
NP: Gino Vanelli - People Gotta Move (sometimes the song is just the right one!)

In article <pv0h7j1ot72t139r6ov39svjsl85u07fpc@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 14:54:40 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
> >Nikos Aliagas <nospam@oui.fr> wrote in news:v55s7d$3gdlk$5
> >@news.mixmin.net:
> >
> >> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in
> >> news:v55ddp$3if4b$6@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>> news:6675da81$0$212411$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <v54fot$38mfs$11@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 6/21/2024 10:38 AM, Chips Loral wrote:
> >>>>> > Baxter wrote:
> >>>>> >> Now the video starts with Biden triping on a sandbag - how is
> >>>>> >> that comedic?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > How is leaving our borders open for invaders
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are no "invaders," spammy, you stupid blowjob and feckless
> >>>>> cunt, and the borders are not open. Fuck off, cocksucker.
> >>>>
> >>>> So all those crossing are doing it legally?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> So what?! The LAW says, that if you're here you are allowed to apply
> >>> for asylum.
> >>
> >> You've never read the law or you wouldn't have written that.
> >>
> >> https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum
> >>
> >
> >Nothing in that reference contradicts what I wrote.
>
> It reinforces it.
>
> "You may only file this application if you are physically present in the United States,
> and you are not a U.S. citizen."
>
> Swill

But if you break the law getting in you should be deported.

In article <o11h7jh3cbfpj0ms8qvcfo233j8of2j0ft@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 21:32:59 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
> >So you approve of the current situation at the border? You are ok with
> >other countries letting there criminals come here? It doesn't bother you
> >in the last 3 years more people from China and the Middle East have just
> >walked in?
>
> It's called brain drain. We're getting their best and brightest. They're seeking
> opportunity in the United States that they can't get in their own far inferior countries.
> Just as what happened in the mass migrations from Europe in the late 19th to mid 20th
> centuries (escaping constant war and lack of economic opportunity).

You really are that dumb.
>
> These people are coming here to work. Are there bad apples? Yes, of course there are
> just as there were in the folks migrating in the seventeenth through twentieth centuries.
> The west wasn't wild because everybody was so pleasant and law abiding. There were plenty
> of crims.

More now than ever. You would rather allow that then do the right thing.
>
> But the fact remains that these are people with the determination and willingness to
> sacrifice everything they know to come here, be Americans and build America no less than
> our ancestors who came here a century ago.

Are those the ones raping 13 year old girls after being deported many
times?
>
> I welcome them and rather than allow only legal immigrants, I say we save ourselves some
> time and effort and just legalize the immigrants we're already getting.

You approve of them breaking the law.
>
> Swill
> NP: Gino Vanelli - People Gotta Move (sometimes the song is just the right one!)

"Governor Swill" wrote in message
news:t5og7j9rp0m3f7ldol3m4t1p6gqao24l4e@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:08:22 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
>>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>news:ku9c7j9diqmhbjue83fb8afqs95hbmebsa@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 12:50:33 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>>>news:c1g97jt0aeq0unru7nnh4qb9n1ifq6j980@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 20 Jun 2024 09:27:46 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>It was worse under Obama and his predecessors. It was on the way down
>>>>>>under
>>>>>>Trump.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's mind boggling to see how much of Trump's candy you suck on.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Candy? Like the MSM kool aid?
>>>
>>>I ignore the MSM, as you call it. There are too many other ways of
>>>getting
>>>information.
>>>
>>
>>Really? Funny how you badmouth Trump like the MSM.
>
>Yeah, I do. That's because his status as a criminal asshole white
>supremacist isn't mere
>MSM propaganda, but is my opinion based on multiple reports across the
>entire political
>spectrum including what his own sycophants have to say about him.
>
>I don't agree with leftists because they're left any more than I disagree
>with rightists
>just because they're on the right. I listen to both, corroborate what I
>can and make up
>my own mind. I have no handlers telling me what to think.
>

Yeah yeah. You are influenced. It's the political hate factor undercurrent.
You've allowed yourself to be caught up.
There is no real evidence that Trump has done anything more illegal than any
other New York businessman. None are fully honest.

He was originally indicted on misdemeanours, and the left Dem prosecutors
sneakily changed them to felonies because they can't jail him otherwise.
They want to take him down.
Why? Because Trump is a system buster who called out the real crooked left
and now they're taking revenge. It's so obvious it's not funny.

--
Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

http://www.rumormillnews.com - The best alternative news site

"Governor Swill" wrote in message
news:jkog7jt69hru914uhl9qnpemvr7ie2hgtu@4ax.com...
>
>On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:36:26 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:
>
>>You guys should get rid of the DOJ entirely. Just get a 'medium' or
>>what ever you call them, and let them tell you who did it.
>
>Why are you even responding to some conspiracist idiot who believes in ESP?
>

The CIA created your mentality. They've been flogging the 'conspiracy
theory' meme in the media for decades.
Alt.atheism is a ship of blind ignorant materialist fools.

--
Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

http://www.rumormillnews.com - The best alternative news site

"Governor Swill" wrote in message
news:fmog7jtsu626nke590rfa1jvaa4kj6ujpo@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:19:48 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
>>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>news:r3ac7jlmtrmte93vnhts5em88gkdqbthc7@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 13:57:59 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Discrediting sources is the government's number one tactic for burying
>>>>information that they don't
>>>>approve of.
>>>
>>>The *government's* number one tactic?
>>>
>>>BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>>
>>
>>You call yourself Governor but obviously know nothing about governments,
>>except what they portray to the public. It's fake.
>>Like Michael Jackson said, they don't care about us.
>
>Your reading comprehension is lacking. I don't mean to say that government
>doesn't use
>that tactic, but that it's hardly a government exclusive. Partisans, left
>and right do it
>all the time. Not that it isn't appropriate in some cases. When a fool
>come in here
>trying to use WND or GP as source for a story, the only appropriate actions
>are to laugh
>them out of the room or improve the gene poll by shooting them dead.
>

I use 'government' as a broad term. It's the present controlling
establishments and corporations I refer to. Yes corporations influence
governments quite heavily. Also lobby groups, the rich and secret societies.

--
Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

http://www.rumormillnews.com - The best alternative news site

"Governor Swill" wrote in message
news:9tog7jphipr1epi3904fpdlv638qn77bmv@4ax.com...
>
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:27:46 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
><snip>
>>Your type only accept convenient mainstream stuff.
>
>That's because much if not most of what we get from the far left and far
>right is
>bullshit.
>
>The facts and the truth are both found much closer to the middle.
>

You think you're middle?

--
Definition of an idiot/ignoramus: Someone who gets their information from
the mainstream media and calls it facts and evidence.

http://www.rumormillnews.com - The best alternative news site

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:o11h7jh3cbfpj0ms8qvcfo233j8of2j0ft@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 21:32:59 -0600, Skeeter
> <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>So you approve of the current situation at the border? You are ok with
>>other countries letting there criminals come here? It doesn't bother
>>you in the last 3 years more people from China and the Middle East
>>have just walked in?
>
> It's called brain drain. We're getting their best and brightest.
> They're seeking opportunity in the United States that they can't get
> in their own far inferior countries. Just as what happened in the mass
> migrations from Europe in the late 19th to mid 20th centuries
> (escaping constant war and lack of economic opportunity).
>
> These people are coming here to work. Are there bad apples? Yes, of
> course there are just as there were in the folks migrating in the
> seventeenth through twentieth centuries. The west wasn't wild because
> everybody was so pleasant and law abiding. There were plenty of
> crims.
>
> But the fact remains that these are people with the determination and
> willingness to sacrifice everything they know to come here, be
> Americans and build America no less than our ancestors who came here a
> century ago.
>
> I welcome them and rather than allow only legal immigrants, I say we
> save ourselves some time and effort and just legalize the immigrants
> we're already getting.
>
> Swill
> NP: Gino Vanelli - People Gotta Move (sometimes the song is just the
> right one!)
>

Well said.