On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:33:39 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> What political conservatives are not religious?
>
>There many religions. Mammon, Satan, et al.

How does that answer the question posed, Siri?

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In article <v4cpf7$1p510$3@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>
> On 6/12/2024 7:40 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> > On 6/12/24 09:30, J Carlson wrote:
> >> On 6/12/2024 3:52 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> >>> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
> >>>>> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
> >>>>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for secular
> >>>> law.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> ?One side or the other is going to win,? he added.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And he is correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> Why does it have to be a battle?  Why is it always a war on something?  Do
> >>>> you not have
> >>>> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
> >>>
> >>> You tell me.
> >>
> >> No, you tell us.
> >>
> >>> It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon the rest of us.
> >>
> >> That's a lie. It is you knuckle-dragger sky fairy believers who are trying to
> >> force your ways on us, the decent people.
> >
> > We seem to have a different understanding of "decent people".
>
> Mine is right and yours is wrong, and that's the end of it.

You have never been right and you run from posting proof of anything.

In article <v4cpif$1p510$4@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>
> On 6/12/2024 7:44 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> > On 6/12/24 09:41, J Carlson wrote:
> >> On 6/12/2024 4:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> >>> On 6/11/24 16:53, J Carlson wrote:
> >>>> On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
> >>>>>> Today?s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts?s name, but it
> >>>>>> is not his court, nor has it been for many years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This was demonstrated once again this week ? not in a formal public
> >>>>>> opinion but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a
> >>>>>> private court event last week and surreptitiously taped her conversations
> >>>>>> with the justices.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor, asserted
> >>>>>> that America is a Christian nation and it is the court?s role to lead it
> >>>>>> on a ?moral path.?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Roberts refused to take the bait. ?Would you want me to be in charge of
> >>>>>> putting the nation on a more moral path?? he responded. ?That?s for people
> >>>>>> we elect. That?s not for lawyers.? He also disagreed that America is a
> >>>>>> Christian nation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that the
> >>>>>> court?s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American people.
> >>>>>> You don?t have to wonder if he?s a closet liberal (and he?s far from it)
> >>>>>> to expect him and his colleagues to approach the nation?s most fraught
> >>>>>> legal disputes with fairness or at least with respect for the separation
> >>>>>> of church and state.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Justice Samuel Alito can?t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In
> >>>>>> response to Windsor?s claim that religious Americans have to keep fighting
> >>>>>> ?to return our country to a place of godliness,? he said, ?I agree with
> >>>>>> you. I agree with you.?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who is
> >>>>> the least bit religious.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic judges
> >>>> like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.
> >>>
> >>> I am nt aware that Alito is a theocratic justice.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ?One side or the other is going to win,? he added.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And he is correct.
> >>>>
> >>>> What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.
> >>>
> >>> What he said is factual, and the battle plays out on a daily basis,
> >>>
> >>>>>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court?s leading culture
> >>>>>> warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for religious
> >>>>>> claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole outside his house.
> >>>>>> Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out his worldview so bluntly ?
> >>>>>> and to a woman he never met before. It shows an utter lack of regard for
> >>>>>> the court?s delicate posture of neutrality in the constitutional system
> >>>>>> and American society.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing his
> >>>>>> sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now ascendant,
> >>>>>> writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down the right to
> >>>>>> abortion and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He is also in good
> >>>>>> company in the upper reaches of government. Recall that House Speaker Mike
> >>>>>> Johnson, an evangelical Christian, told an interviewer after he got the
> >>>>>> job, ?Go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it. That?s my worldview.?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have fully
> >>>>>> ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises demanded by a
> >>>>>> pluralistic society when you can just impose your (and God?s) will by
> >>>>>> fiat? In that regard, this is really the Alito court.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas, too.
> >>>>>> They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we won't stand
> >>>>>> for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
> >>>>
> >>>> Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking lavish
> >>>> gifts from people with business before the court, are the very epitome of
> >>>> corruption.
> >>>
> >>> You seem to be equating conservative wit religious.
> >>
> >> Alito is an ultra-conservative religious freak who wants to create a theocracy.
> >
> > You do have a vivid imagination.
>
> I have the facts, you lying troll.

How come you never post them?

On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 17:53:16 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

>David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote
>> You seem to be equating conservative wit religious. Not all cultural
>> and legal conservatives are religious, even you should see this.
>>
>
>
> What political conservatives are not religious?

You're want to start making lists? Isn't that time consuming?

Dude, just because someone is politically conservative doesn't mean they're religious. I
grant you, the two do hand in hand but I sure wouldn't describe MTG or Gym Jordan as
particularly religious figures.

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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:40:22 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:

>We seem to have a different understanding of "decent people".

We certainly do and you're not one of them.

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On 6/15/24 00:11, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:40:22 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>
>> We seem to have a different understanding of "decent people".
>
> We certainly do and you're not one of them.

You are welcome to your opinion.

Governor Swill wrote:
> You're want to start making lists? Isn't that time consuming?

Looks like sleazynews booted little man ball = next up:

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David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:

>
> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.

What religion is being pushed on you by non
conservatives?

On 6/15/2024 5:50 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/15/24 00:11, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 09:40:22 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We seem to have a different understanding of "decent people".
>>
>> We certainly do and you're not one of them.
>
> You are welcome to your opinion.

His well-founded opinion, unlike yours.

David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>>> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
>>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>>
>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for
>> secular law.
>>
>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>
>>> And he is correct.
>>
>> Why does it have to be a battle?  Why is it always a war on
>> something?  Do you not have
>> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>
> You tell me. It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways
> upon the rest of us.
>

What religion is being pushed on you by non
conservatives?