In article <b0oi6jl1a5pm5jnc859p10fnsdk1qk1i68@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 22:15:24 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
> >Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious crimes.
> >Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>
> Let's start with Donald Trump
>
> Swill
> NP: Santana - Oye Como Va

Why? Because he doesn't like commie pricks like you?

In article <a2oi6jhqcru4mibu9bld296p5esgcj9fgj@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 03:00:56 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>
> >pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
> >
> >> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
> >>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
> >>>>
> >>>>Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a gun.
> >>>>
> >>>>He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear, and
> >>>>hung at sundown today.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What a wonderful day in America!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious crimes.
> >> Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
> >>
> >What makes you think that? Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
> >punishments did not deter crime in the past
>
> "Death is always quick. It is the path to death that can be tedious slow. ... There are
> some men, skilled lovers I am told, who can extend the divine moment for a half hour. So
> in death. Either the soul can be shot from the body with abrupt suddeness, or enticed
> forth. In such matters I have the delicacy of a practiced seducer and as in conception,
> so in death. The business begins here, with the privities." - Richard Topcliffe in
> "Elizabeth R"
>
> Swill
> NP: Santana - Oye Como Va

DMT works better.

On 6/11/2024 3:59 PM, Quinten Baxtern wrote:
> On 6/11/2024 3:24 PM, Loran wrote:
>> pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-11, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>> Trump's Bitch wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>> <es@noose.time>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a gun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>> and hung
>>>>>> at sundown today.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I kinda wanted to see him cooked on a rotisserie, oh well...
>>>>
>>>> https://media1.tenor.com/m/111brrFfK4YAAAAC/happy-thanksgiving-friends.gif
>>>
>>> A short drop televised across the globe where viewers can see him
>>> doing the hangman's dance,
>>> watching his bowels let go and slowly dying would go a long way
>>> towards stopping crime.
>>
>> Indeed it would!
>>
>>> In Hunter's case, I would not suggest anything close, but for others,
>>> especially murderers, yes, go
>>> for it.
>>
>> Hunter deserves a surgical de-balling at the very least.
>>
>> Fucking your niece and yur dead brother's wife is heinous to the max!
>
> Heck, that's how we keep families together here in Oregon!

Must be all that rain you get there. Brains get soggy and rot.

On 6/11/2024 6:28 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <v4al3v$198hf$2@dont-email.me>, cv@invalid.org says...
>>
>> On 6/11/2024 4:59 PM, Quinten Baxtern wrote:
>>> On 6/11/2024 3:24 PM, Loran wrote:
>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Trump's Bitch wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>> <es@noose.time>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a gun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>>> and hung
>>>>>>>> at sundown today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I kinda wanted to see him cooked on a rotisserie, oh well...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://media1.tenor.com/m/111brrFfK4YAAAAC/happy-thanksgiving-friends.gif
>>>>>
>>>>> A short drop televised across the globe where viewers can see him
>>>>> doing the hangman's dance,
>>>>> watching his bowels let go and slowly dying would go a long way
>>>>> towards stopping crime.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed it would!
>>>>
>>>>> In Hunter's case, I would not suggest anything close, but for others,
>>>>> especially murderers, yes, go
>>>>> for it.
>>>>
>>>> Hunter deserves a surgical de-balling at the very least.
>>>>
>>>> Fucking your niece and yur dead brother's wife is heinous to the max!
>>>
>>> Heck, that's how we keep families together here in Oregon!
>>
>> Lol at West Arkansas!
>
> Hey now, ya'll, I gots kin folk there.

Bet the BBQs are fun.

https://www.arpork.com/

On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>>
>>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>>
>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation to
>>> begin with.
>>
>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh
>> punishment just a risk of the job.
>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of
>> the job.
>>
>> Being tough on crime does work however.
>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
>> So what happened to all the criminals?
>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
>
> There are no such places.

Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis,
Seattle, Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.

Want more? Pick any blue governed city.

Dave Wainwright wrote:
> On 6/11/2024 6:28 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> In article <v4al3v$198hf$2@dont-email.me>, cv@invalid.org says...
>>>
>>> On 6/11/2024 4:59 PM, Quinten Baxtern wrote:
>>>> On 6/11/2024 3:24 PM, Loran wrote:
>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Trump's Bitch wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>>> <es@noose.time>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get
>>>>>>>>> a gun.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>>>> and hung
>>>>>>>>> at sundown today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I kinda wanted to see him cooked on a rotisserie, oh well...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://media1.tenor.com/m/111brrFfK4YAAAAC/happy-thanksgiving-friends.gif
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A short drop televised across the globe where viewers can see him
>>>>>> doing the hangman's dance,
>>>>>> watching his bowels let go and slowly dying would go a long way
>>>>>> towards stopping crime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed it would!
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Hunter's case, I would not suggest anything close, but for others,
>>>>>> especially murderers, yes, go
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hunter deserves a surgical de-balling at the very least.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fucking your niece and yur dead brother's wife is heinous to the max!
>>>>
>>>> Heck, that's how we keep families together here in Oregon!
>>>
>>> Lol at West Arkansas!
>>
>> Hey now, ya'll, I gots kin folk there.
>
> Bet the BBQs are fun.
>
> https://www.arpork.com/
>
>
Good Lord:

"The Arkansas Pork Producers Association is made up of a progressive
group of pork producers"

So they're going to be doing tranny pigs next?

Remind me to pass on those chops!

Dave Wainwright wrote:
> On 6/11/2024 3:59 PM, Quinten Baxtern wrote:
>> On 6/11/2024 3:24 PM, Loran wrote:
>>> pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-11, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>> Trump's Bitch wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>> <es@noose.time>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>> and hung
>>>>>>> at sundown today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I kinda wanted to see him cooked on a rotisserie, oh well...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://media1.tenor.com/m/111brrFfK4YAAAAC/happy-thanksgiving-friends.gif
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A short drop televised across the globe where viewers can see him
>>>> doing the hangman's dance,
>>>> watching his bowels let go and slowly dying would go a long way
>>>> towards stopping crime.
>>>
>>> Indeed it would!
>>>
>>>> In Hunter's case, I would not suggest anything close, but for
>>>> others, especially murderers, yes, go
>>>> for it.
>>>
>>> Hunter deserves a surgical de-balling at the very least.
>>>
>>> Fucking your niece and yur dead brother's wife is heinous to the max!
>>
>> Heck, that's how we keep families together here in Oregon!
>
> Must be all that rain you get there.  Brains get soggy and rot.

Same as Seattle, yep.

On 6/12/2024 8:08 AM, Loran wrote:
> Baxter wrote:
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>
>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a gun.
>>>>>
>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear, and
>>>>> hung at sundown today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious crimes.
>>> Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>
>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>
> Bullshit lie.
>
> Check the rate of thievery in ME nations where hand removal is the norm.

I recommend removing a foot if it's a second offense. No sense creating
a situation where someone has to wipe a criminal's butt.

On 12 Jun 2024, Dave Wainwright <nospam@comcast.net> posted some
news:v4d36f$1djhs$6@news.mixmin.net:

> On 6/12/2024 8:08 AM, Loran wrote:
>> Baxter wrote:
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>
>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter,
>>> disembowel) punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>>
>> Bullshit lie.
>>
>> Check the rate of thievery in ME nations where hand removal is the
>> norm.
>
> I recommend removing a foot if it's a second offense. No sense
> creating a situation where someone has to wipe a criminal's butt.

You could always remove the head first as a preventative lesson to
others, or make tree ornaments out of them like the cowboys used to.

On 12 Jun 2024, Loran <loran@invalid.net> posted some
news:v4d2v0$1r9lp$3@dont-email.me:

> Dave Wainwright wrote:
>> On 6/11/2024 6:28 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <v4al3v$198hf$2@dont-email.me>, cv@invalid.org says...
>>>>
>>>> On 6/11/2024 4:59 PM, Quinten Baxtern wrote:
>>>>> On 6/11/2024 3:24 PM, Loran wrote:
>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Trump's Bitch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>>>> <es@noose.time>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to
>>>>>>>>>> get a gun.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink
>>>>>>>>>> underwear, and hung
>>>>>>>>>> at sundown today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I kinda wanted to see him cooked on a rotisserie, oh well...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://media1.tenor.com/m/111brrFfK4YAAAAC/happy-thanksgiving-f
>>>>>>>> riends.gif
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A short drop televised across the globe where viewers can see
>>>>>>> him doing the hangman's dance,
>>>>>>> watching his bowels let go and slowly dying would go a long way
>>>>>>> towards stopping crime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed it would!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In Hunter's case, I would not suggest anything close, but for
>>>>>>> others, especially murderers, yes, go
>>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hunter deserves a surgical de-balling at the very least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fucking your niece and yur dead brother's wife is heinous to the
>>>>>> max!
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, that's how we keep families together here in Oregon!
>>>>
>>>> Lol at West Arkansas!
>>>
>>> Hey now, ya'll, I gots kin folk there.
>>
>> Bet the BBQs are fun.
>>
>> https://www.arpork.com/
>>
>>
> Good Lord:
>
> "The Arkansas Pork Producers Association is made up of a progressive
> group of pork producers"

Holy porkers. They actually admitted and published that. We should
suggest Hillary or Liz as the next pork queens.
> So they're going to be doing tranny pigs next?
>
> Remind me to pass on those chops!

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me...
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>
>>>>User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>
>>>>Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a gun.
>>>>
>>>>He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear, and
>>>>hung at sundown today.
>>>
>>>
>>> What a wonderful day in America!
>>>
>>
>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious crimes.
>> Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>
> What makes you think that? Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
> punishments did not deter crime in the past

Sure it did. I can guarantee that person never committed another crime.

Further I would note in the US serious crime increased as capital punishment
was eliminated.

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:v4cc9i$1mt86$1@dont-email.me...
> Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote in news:v4bda4$19daj$1@news.mixmin.net:
>
>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>gun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>
>>> What makes you think that? Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>
>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation
> to
>> begin with.
>>
>> Recall, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?"
>>
>> After a quarter pound of bad choices, isn't it time to more permanently
>> resolve the situation?
>>
> Your "cure" is worse than the disease.

Seems to eliminate one specific disease.... each time it's used.

After all, those subject to capital punished have a 0% recidivism rate.

That has to count as a reduction.

"s sanders" <ssanders@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
news:v4d2ut$1djhs$5@news.mixmin.net...
> On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
>>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
>>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What makes you think that? Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>>>
>>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation
>>>> to
>>>> begin with.
>>>
>>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh punishment
>>> just a risk of the job.
>>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of the
>>> job.
>>>
>>> Being tough on crime does work however.
>>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
>>> So what happened to all the criminals?
>>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
>>
>> There are no such places.
>
> Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis,
> Seattle, Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.
>
> Want more? Pick any blue governed city.

Heck, let's pick Chicago.. the murder capital of the nation... Oh wait..
Chicago has been under one party rule (Democrat) for almost 100 years. I
think the last Republican in the Chicago government was William Thompson who
left office in 1930....

Yea, we certainly do see how Democrat soft on crime policies has made
Chicago one of the safest cities in the country.... that's why it's the
murder capital.

On 6/12/2024 2:12 PM, s sanders wrote:
> On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
>>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
>>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>>>
>>>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>>>
>>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation to
>>>> begin with.
>>>
>>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh punishment just
>>> a risk of the job.
>>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of the job.
>>>
>>> Being tough on crime does work however.
>>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
>>> So what happened to all the criminals?
>>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
>>
>> There are no such places.
>
> Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis, Seattle,
> Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.

None of those have "soft on crime policies." That's just a MAGA lie/trope.

In article <v5k7ru$2p70k$29@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>
> On 6/12/2024 2:12 PM, s sanders wrote:
> > On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
> >> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
> >>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
> >>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
> >>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>
> >>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
> >>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
> >>>>>>>> gun.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
> >>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
> >>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
> >>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
> >>>>
> >>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation to
> >>>> begin with.
> >>>
> >>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh punishment just
> >>> a risk of the job.
> >>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of the job.
> >>>
> >>> Being tough on crime does work however.
> >>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
> >>> So what happened to all the criminals?
> >>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
> >>
> >> There are no such places.
> >
> > Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis, Seattle,
> > Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.
>
> None of those have "soft on crime policies." That's just a MAGA lie/trope.

Oh yes they do. You refuse to face the truth.

On 6/27/2024 10:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:

>
>
> "s sanders" <ssanders@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> news:v4d2ut$1djhs$5@news.mixmin.net...
>> On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
>>> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
>>>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
>>>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>>>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>>>>
>>>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation to
>>>>> begin with.
>>>>
>>>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh punishment
>>>> just a risk of the job.
>>>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of the job.
>>>>
>>>> Being tough on crime does work however.
>>>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
>>>> So what happened to all the criminals?
>>>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
>>>
>>> There are no such places.
>>
>> Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis, Seattle,
>> Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.

None of those have "soft on crime policies." That's just a garden-variety MAGA
lie/trope.

>
> Heck,

Another bit of empty wheeze, aka a scooterism:

"Actually..." [empty padding]
"Further..." [empty padding]
"Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
"And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
before fleeing]
"On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
"And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
"Heck..." [empty padding]
"Well..." [empty padding]
"After all..." [empty padding]
"In fact..." [empty padding]
"Indeed..." [empty padding]
"I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
acknowledgment]
"So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
*never* said, i.e. a straw man]
"TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." — a straw man]
"Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
— a straw man]
"Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
Constitution anyway]
"it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
"its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
"where" [he means "were"]
"were" [he means "where"]
"creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]

> let's pick Chicago.. the murder capital of the nation

No, scooter. Chicago is *well* down the list of American cities in terms of
murder and non negligent homicide, scooter. Chicago currently ranks #15 (shows
as #14 in Wikipedia but that's because Baltimore isn't included):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

And here's a crucial fact: the large majority of the cities that have higher
murder rates than Chicago are in shithole red states. Even one that isn't —
Milwaukee — is in a "virtual" shithole red state, because the legislature is
controlled (both houses) by Republiscums/QAnon due to gerrymandering, even
though all statewide offices but one U.S. Senate seat and one executive branch
office are held by Democrats. Nearly all big cities are run by Democrats, but
cities run by Democrats in Republiscum/QAnon run states have far higher murder
and other violent crime rates than cities run by Democrats in Democratic run
states. It's the Republiscum/QAnon state governments that make the difference.
Republiscum/QAnon government = higher violent crime rates.

On 6/27/2024 10:39 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <v5k7ru$2p70k$29@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>>
>> On 6/12/2024 2:12 PM, s sanders wrote:
>>> On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
>>>> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
>>>>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>>>>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation to
>>>>>> begin with.
>>>>>
>>>>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh punishment just
>>>>> a risk of the job.
>>>>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of the job.
>>>>>
>>>>> Being tough on crime does work however.
>>>>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
>>>>> So what happened to all the criminals?
>>>>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
>>>>
>>>> There are no such places.
>>>
>>> Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis, Seattle,
>>> Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.
>>
>> None of those have "soft on crime policies." That's just a MAGA lie/trope.
>
> Oh yes they do.

No, they do not.

In article <v5k8n5$2p70k$30@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>
> On 6/27/2024 10:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>
> >
> >
> > "s sanders" <ssanders@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
> > news:v4d2ut$1djhs$5@news.mixmin.net...
> >> On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
> >>> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
> >>>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
> >>>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
> >>>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >>>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
> >>>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
> >>>>>>>>> gun.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
> >>>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
> >>>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
> >>>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation to
> >>>>> begin with.
> >>>>
> >>>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh punishment
> >>>> just a risk of the job.
> >>>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of the job.
> >>>>
> >>>> Being tough on crime does work however.
> >>>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
> >>>> So what happened to all the criminals?
> >>>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
> >>>
> >>> There are no such places.
> >>
> >> Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis, Seattle,
> >> Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.
>
> None of those have "soft on crime policies." That's just a garden-variety MAGA
> lie/trope.
>
> >
> > Heck,
>
> Another bit of empty wheeze, aka a scooterism:
>
> "Actually..." [empty padding]
> "Further..." [empty padding]
> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
> before fleeing]
> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
> "Heck..." [empty padding]
> "Well..." [empty padding]
> "After all..." [empty padding]
> "In fact..." [empty padding]
> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
> acknowledgment]
> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." ? a straw man]
> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
> ? a straw man]
> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
> Constitution anyway]
> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
> "where" [he means "were"]
> "were" [he means "where"]
> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>
>
> > let's pick Chicago.. the murder capital of the nation
>
> No, scooter. Chicago is *well* down the list of American cities in terms of
> murder and non negligent homicide, scooter. Chicago currently ranks #15 (shows
> as #14 in Wikipedia but that's because Baltimore isn't included):
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
>
> And here's a crucial fact: the large majority of the cities that have higher
> murder rates than Chicago are in shithole red states. Even one that isn't ?
> Milwaukee ? is in a "virtual" shithole red state, because the legislature is
> controlled (both houses) by Republiscums/QAnon due to gerrymandering, even
> though all statewide offices but one U.S. Senate seat and one executive branch
> office are held by Democrats. Nearly all big cities are run by Democrats, but
> cities run by Democrats in Republiscum/QAnon run states have far higher murder
> and other violent crime rates than cities run by Democrats in Democratic run
> states. It's the Republiscum/QAnon state governments that make the difference.
> Republiscum/QAnon government = higher violent crime rates.

I suppose any place is better than the shithole you live in.

On 6/27/2024 11:47 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child
molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

> In article <v5k8n5$2p70k$30@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>>
>> On 6/27/2024 10:25 AM, scooter, the drunken Virginia camper and gutless
>> chickenshit who is frightened to death of Rudy, lied:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "s sanders" <ssanders@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
>>> news:v4d2ut$1djhs$5@news.mixmin.net...
>>>> On 6/12/2024 8:06 AM, J Carlson wrote:
>>>>> On 6/12/2024 5:40 AM, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-06-12, Dolinsky <nospam@coc.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11 Jun 2024, Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> posted some
>>>>>>> news:v4b318$1f96l$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:v4ai9s$17ve5$17@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-11, Trump's Bitch <Trumps_Bitch@organization.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:31:27 -0000 (UTC), "Evans-Smythe"
>>>>>>>>>> <es@noose.time> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.24
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hunter Biden was just convicted of lying about drug use to get a
>>>>>>>>>>> gun.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He has been sentenced to be de-balled, dressed in pink underwear,
>>>>>>>>>>> and hung at sundown today.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   What a wonderful day in America!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Crime would cease if there were televised hangings for serious
>>>>>>>>> crimes. Even the hardened criminals will not risk it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What makes you think that?  Even worse (draw and quarter, disembowel)
>>>>>>>> punishments did not deter crime in the past
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Punishments can't be deterents for those who have no moral foundation to
>>>>>>> begin with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There will always be career criminals and they consider harsh punishment
>>>>>> just a risk of the job.
>>>>>> Much like an iron worker considers falling off a skyscraper part of the job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being tough on crime does work however.
>>>>>> Giuliani cleaned up NYC by having tough on crime policies.
>>>>>> So what happened to all the criminals?
>>>>>> They relocated elsewhere to places with soft on crime policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no such places.
>>>>
>>>> Oakland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Houston, Minneapolis, Seattle,
>>>> Denver, Boulder, New Orleans.
>>
>> None of those have "soft on crime policies." That's just a garden-variety MAGA
>> lie/trope.
>>
>>>
>>> Heck,
>>
>> Another bit of empty wheeze, aka a scooterism:
>>
>> "Actually..." [empty padding]
>> "Further..." [empty padding]
>> "Naturally, ..." [empty padding]
>> "And just like that..." [scooter going "nyah-nyah" at an opponent immediately
>> before fleeing]
>> "On the contrary..." [scooter childishly disputing, *never* refuting]
>> "And yet..." [empty padding; scooter adding something irrelevant and pointless]
>> "Heck..." [empty padding]
>> "Well..." [empty padding]
>> "After all..." [empty padding]
>> "In fact..." [empty padding]
>> "Indeed..." [empty padding]
>> "I acknowledge that..." [something that hasn't happened, so not subject to
>> acknowledgment]
>> "So what you're saying..." [what follows is *always* something the opponent
>> *never* said, i.e. a straw man]
>> "TRANSLATION:..." [the same as "so what you're saying..." ? a straw man]
>> "Rudy/Baxter/Lee admits..." same as "so what you're saying" and "TRANSLATION:.."
>> ? a straw man]
>> "Where in the Constitution does it say..." [about shit that wouldn't *be* in the
>> Constitution anyway]
>> "it's" [he means the possessive "its"]
>> "its" [he means the contraction "it's"]
>> "where" [he means "were"]
>> "were" [he means "where"]
>> "creditability" [he means "credibility"; "creditability" is not a word]
>>
>>
>>> let's pick Chicago.. the murder capital of the nation
>>
>> No, scooter. Chicago is *well* down the list of American cities in terms of
>> murder and non negligent homicide, scooter. Chicago currently ranks #15 (shows
>> as #14 in Wikipedia but that's because Baltimore isn't included):
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
>>
>> And here's a crucial fact: the large majority of the cities that have higher
>> murder rates than Chicago are in shithole red states. Even one that isn't ?
>> Milwaukee ? is in a "virtual" shithole red state, because the legislature is
>> controlled (both houses) by Republiscums/QAnon due to gerrymandering, even
>> though all statewide offices but one U.S. Senate seat and one executive branch
>> office are held by Democrats. Nearly all big cities are run by Democrats, but
>> cities run by Democrats in Republiscum/QAnon run states have far higher murder
>> and other violent crime rates than cities run by Democrats in Democratic run
>> states. It's the Republiscum/QAnon state governments that make the difference.
>> Republiscum/QAnon government = higher violent crime rates.
>
> I suppose any place is better than the shithole you live in.

It isn't. You live in a shabby trailer in a red shithole part of Colorado.
Remember: I've been inside it.

J Carlson wrote:
> No, they do not.

And your J Carlson nym, the same:

From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.

Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california

Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

J Carlson wrote:
> And here's a crucial fact:

And your J Carlson nym, the same:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.

Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california

Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

J Carlson wrote:
> That's just a MAGA lie/trope.

And your J Carlson nym, the same:

From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
handling the prosecution.

Those can be reported here:

https://tips.fbi.gov/home

https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california

Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?