Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name, but it is not
his court, nor has it been for many years.

This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public opinion but
in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a private court event
last week and surreptitiously taped her conversations with the justices.

Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor, asserted that
America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s role to lead it on a “moral
path.”

Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in charge of putting
the nation on a more moral path?” he responded. “That’s for people we elect.
That’s not for lawyers.” He also disagreed that America is a Christian nation.

This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that the court’s
legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American people. You don’t have
to wonder if he’s a closet liberal (and he’s far from it) to expect him and his
colleagues to approach the nation’s most fraught legal disputes with fairness or
at least with respect for the separation of church and state.

Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In response
to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to keep fighting “to return our
country to a place of godliness,” he said, “I agree with you. I agree with you.”

“One side or the other is going to win,” he added.

In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading culture
warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for religious claims,
whether before the court or on the flagpole outside his house. Still, it should
shock us to hear him lay out his worldview so bluntly — and to a woman he never
met before. It shows an utter lack of regard for the court’s delicate posture of
neutrality in the constitutional system and American society.

For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing his sour,
grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now ascendant, writing the
lead opinion in the decision striking down the right to abortion and many other
precedent-breaking rulings. He is also in good company in the upper reaches of
government. Recall that House Speaker Mike Johnson, an evangelical Christian,
told an interviewer after he got the job, “Go pick up a Bible off your shelf and
read it. That’s my worldview.”

Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have fully ripped
off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises demanded by a pluralistic
society when you can just impose your (and God’s) will by fiat? In that regard,
this is really the Alito court.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html

Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas, too. They
are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we won't stand for it.

On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name, but it
> is not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>
> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public
> opinion but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a
> private court event last week and surreptitiously taped her
> conversations with the justices.
>
> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor, asserted
> that America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s role to lead it
> on a “moral path.”
>
> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in charge of
> putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded. “That’s for
> people we elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He also disagreed that America
> is a Christian nation.
>
> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that the
> court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American people.
> You don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet liberal (and he’s far from it)
> to expect him and his colleagues to approach the nation’s most fraught
> legal disputes with fairness or at least with respect for the separation
> of church and state.
>
> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In
> response to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to keep
> fighting “to return our country to a place of godliness,” he said, “I
> agree with you. I agree with you.”

You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
fact that Alito is open about his convictions.

> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.

And he is correct.

> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading
> culture warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for
> religious claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole outside
> his house. Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out his worldview
> so bluntly — and to a woman he never met before. It shows an utter lack
> of regard for the court’s delicate posture of neutrality in the
> constitutional system and American society.
>
> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing his
> sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now ascendant,
> writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down the right to
> abortion and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He is also in good
> company in the upper reaches of government. Recall that House Speaker
> Mike Johnson, an evangelical Christian, told an interviewer after he got
> the job, “Go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it. That’s my
> worldview.”
>
> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have fully
> ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises demanded by a
> pluralistic society when you can just impose your (and God’s) will by
> fiat? In that regard, this is really the Alito court.
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
>
> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas, too.
> They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we won't stand
> for it.

Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption; in what way is
Alito corrupt?

On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
>> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name, but it is
>> not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>>
>> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public opinion
>> but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a private court
>> event last week and surreptitiously taped her conversations with the justices.
>>
>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor, asserted that
>> America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s role to lead it on a
>> “moral path.”
>>
>> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in charge of
>> putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded. “That’s for people we
>> elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He also disagreed that America is a Christian
>> nation.
>>
>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that the
>> court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American people. You
>> don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet liberal (and he’s far from it) to expect
>> him and his colleagues to approach the nation’s most fraught legal disputes
>> with fairness or at least with respect for the separation of church and state.
>>
>> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In response
>> to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to keep fighting “to return
>> our country to a place of godliness,” he said, “I agree with you. I agree with
>> you.”
>
> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who is the
> least bit religious.

I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic judges
like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.

>
>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>
> And he is correct.

What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.

>
>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading culture
>> warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for religious
>> claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole outside his house. Still,
>> it should shock us to hear him lay out his worldview so bluntly — and to a
>> woman he never met before. It shows an utter lack of regard for the court’s
>> delicate posture of neutrality in the constitutional system and American society.
>>
>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing his sour,
>> grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now ascendant, writing the
>> lead opinion in the decision striking down the right to abortion and many
>> other precedent-breaking rulings. He is also in good company in the upper
>> reaches of government. Recall that House Speaker Mike Johnson, an evangelical
>> Christian, told an interviewer after he got the job, “Go pick up a Bible off
>> your shelf and read it. That’s my worldview.”
>>
>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have fully ripped
>> off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises demanded by a pluralistic
>> society when you can just impose your (and God’s) will by fiat? In that
>> regard, this is really the Alito court.
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
>>
>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas, too. They
>> are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we won't stand for it.
>
> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption

Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking lavish gifts
from people with business before the court, are the very epitome of corruption.

[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who is the
>> least bit religious.
>
>I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic judges
>like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.

Rudy doesn't believe in freedom of religion.

He will now explain how Elena Kagan's Judaism colors here decisions.

Right here ----->

He will now explain how Ketanji Brown Jackson's Protestantism colors
her decisions.

Right here ----->

>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
>
>Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis

Rudy will now show us how his judicial decisions were incorrect.

[Theme from Jeopardy]

On 6/11/2024 2:53 PM, J Carlson wrote:
> On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
>>> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name, but
>>> it is not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>>>
>>> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public
>>> opinion but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a
>>> private court event last week and surreptitiously taped her
>>> conversations with the justices.
>>>
>>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor,
>>> asserted that America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s
>>> role to lead it on a “moral path.”
>>>
>>> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in charge
>>> of putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded. “That’s
>>> for people we elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He also disagreed that
>>> America is a Christian nation.
>>>
>>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that
>>> the court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American
>>> people. You don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet liberal (and he’s
>>> far from it) to expect him and his colleagues to approach the
>>> nation’s most fraught legal disputes with fairness or at least with
>>> respect for the separation of church and state.
>>>
>>> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In
>>> response to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to keep
>>> fighting “to return our country to a place of godliness,” he said, “I
>>> agree with you. I agree with you.”
>>
>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>> is the least bit religious.
>
> I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic
> judges like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.
>
>>
>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>
>> And he is correct.
>
> What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.
>
>>
>>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading
>>> culture warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for
>>> religious claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole outside
>>> his house. Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out his
>>> worldview so bluntly — and to a woman he never met before. It shows
>>> an utter lack of regard for the court’s delicate posture of
>>> neutrality in the constitutional system and American society.
>>>
>>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing
>>> his sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now
>>> ascendant, writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down the
>>> right to abortion and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He is
>>> also in good company in the upper reaches of government. Recall that
>>> House Speaker Mike Johnson, an evangelical Christian, told an
>>> interviewer after he got the job, “Go pick up a Bible off your shelf
>>> and read it. That’s my worldview.”
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have
>>> fully ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises
>>> demanded by a pluralistic society when you can just impose your (and
>>> God’s) will by fiat? In that regard, this is really the Alito court.
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
>>>
>>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas,
>>> too. They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we
>>> won't stand for it.
>>
>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
>
> Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking
> lavish gifts from people with business before the court, are the very
> epitome of corruption.

You mean like the honorable Senator Bob Menendez did? You do recall he
is now attempting to blame his cancer-stricken wife for his sins?

>https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.ht
>ml
>
>Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas, too.
>They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we won't stand
>for it.
>

A Trump Bible in every home.

$50 ea

On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:

>You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
>fact that Alito is open about his convictions.

I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for secular law.

>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>
>And he is correct.

Why does it have to be a battle? Why is it always a war on something? Do you not have
tolerance or compassion for your fellows?

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On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>
>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>
> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for secular law.
>
>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>
>> And he is correct.
>
> Why does it have to be a battle? Why is it always a war on something? Do you not have
> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?

You tell me. It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways
upon the rest of us.

On 6/11/24 16:53, J Carlson wrote:
> On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
>>> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name, but
>>> it is not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>>>
>>> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public
>>> opinion but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a
>>> private court event last week and surreptitiously taped her
>>> conversations with the justices.
>>>
>>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor,
>>> asserted that America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s
>>> role to lead it on a “moral path.”
>>>
>>> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in charge
>>> of putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded. “That’s
>>> for people we elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He also disagreed that
>>> America is a Christian nation.
>>>
>>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that
>>> the court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American
>>> people. You don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet liberal (and he’s
>>> far from it) to expect him and his colleagues to approach the
>>> nation’s most fraught legal disputes with fairness or at least with
>>> respect for the separation of church and state.
>>>
>>> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In
>>> response to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to keep
>>> fighting “to return our country to a place of godliness,” he said, “I
>>> agree with you. I agree with you.”
>>
>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>> is the least bit religious.
>
> I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic
> judges like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.

I am nt aware that Alito is a theocratic justice.
>
>>
>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>
>> And he is correct.
>
> What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.

What he said is factual, and the battle plays out on a daily basis,

>>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading
>>> culture warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for
>>> religious claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole outside
>>> his house. Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out his
>>> worldview so bluntly — and to a woman he never met before. It shows
>>> an utter lack of regard for the court’s delicate posture of
>>> neutrality in the constitutional system and American society.
>>>
>>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing
>>> his sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now
>>> ascendant, writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down the
>>> right to abortion and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He is
>>> also in good company in the upper reaches of government. Recall that
>>> House Speaker Mike Johnson, an evangelical Christian, told an
>>> interviewer after he got the job, “Go pick up a Bible off your shelf
>>> and read it. That’s my worldview.”
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have
>>> fully ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises
>>> demanded by a pluralistic society when you can just impose your (and
>>> God’s) will by fiat? In that regard, this is really the Alito court.
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
>>>
>>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas,
>>> too. They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we
>>> won't stand for it.
>>
>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
>
> Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking
> lavish gifts from people with business before the court, are the very
> epitome of corruption.

You seem to be equating conservative wit religious. Not all cultural and
legal conservatives are religious, even you should see this.

David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:v6qdnfzm4pV24PT7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:

> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader
>>> who is the least bit religious. I should think that you would
>>> appreciate the fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>>
>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for
>> secular law.
>>
>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>
>>> And he is correct.
>>
>> Why does it have to be a battle? Why is it always a war on
>> something? Do you not have tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>
> You tell me. It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways
> upon the rest of us.
>
>

You mean like how plain red coffee cups
prove there is a "War on Christmas"?

On 6/12/2024 3:52 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>>> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
>>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>>
>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for secular law.
>>
>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>
>>> And he is correct.
>>
>> Why does it have to be a battle?  Why is it always a war on something?  Do you
>> not have
>> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>
> You tell me.

No, you tell us.

> It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon the
> rest of us.

That's a lie. It is you knuckle-dragger sky fairy believers who are trying to
force your ways on us, the decent people.

On 6/12/24 09:30, J Carlson wrote:
> On 6/12/2024 3:52 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>>>> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate
>>>> the
>>>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>>>
>>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for
>>> secular law.
>>>
>>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>>
>>>> And he is correct.
>>>
>>> Why does it have to be a battle?  Why is it always a war on
>>> something?  Do you not have
>>> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>>
>> You tell me.
>
> No, you tell us.
>
>> It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon the rest
>> of us.
>
> That's a lie. It is you knuckle-dragger sky fairy believers who are
> trying to force your ways on us, the decent people.

We seem to have a different understanding of "decent people".

On 6/12/2024 4:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/11/24 16:53, J Carlson wrote:
>> On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
>>>> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name, but it is
>>>> not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>>>>
>>>> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public opinion
>>>> but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a private court
>>>> event last week and surreptitiously taped her conversations with the justices.
>>>>
>>>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor, asserted that
>>>> America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s role to lead it on a
>>>> “moral path.”
>>>>
>>>> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in charge of
>>>> putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded. “That’s for people
>>>> we elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He also disagreed that America is a
>>>> Christian nation.
>>>>
>>>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that the
>>>> court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American people. You
>>>> don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet liberal (and he’s far from it) to
>>>> expect him and his colleagues to approach the nation’s most fraught legal
>>>> disputes with fairness or at least with respect for the separation of church
>>>> and state.
>>>>
>>>> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In
>>>> response to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to keep fighting
>>>> “to return our country to a place of godliness,” he said, “I agree with you.
>>>> I agree with you.”
>>>
>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who is the
>>> least bit religious.
>>
>> I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic judges
>> like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.
>
> I am nt aware that Alito is a theocratic justice.
>>
>>>
>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>
>>> And he is correct.
>>
>> What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.
>
> What he said is factual, and the battle plays out on a daily basis,
>
>>>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading culture
>>>> warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for religious
>>>> claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole outside his house.
>>>> Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out his worldview so bluntly — and
>>>> to a woman he never met before. It shows an utter lack of regard for the
>>>> court’s delicate posture of neutrality in the constitutional system and
>>>> American society.
>>>>
>>>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing his
>>>> sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now ascendant,
>>>> writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down the right to abortion
>>>> and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He is also in good company in the
>>>> upper reaches of government. Recall that House Speaker Mike Johnson, an
>>>> evangelical Christian, told an interviewer after he got the job, “Go pick up
>>>> a Bible off your shelf and read it. That’s my worldview.”
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have fully
>>>> ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises demanded by a
>>>> pluralistic society when you can just impose your (and God’s) will by fiat?
>>>> In that regard, this is really the Alito court.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
>>>>
>>>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas, too.
>>>> They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we won't stand for it.
>>>
>>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
>>
>> Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking lavish
>> gifts from people with business before the court, are the very epitome of
>> corruption.
>
> You seem to be equating conservative wit religious.

Alito is an ultra-conservative religious freak who wants to create a theocracy.

On 6/12/24 09:41, J Carlson wrote:
> On 6/12/2024 4:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 6/11/24 16:53, J Carlson wrote:
>>> On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
>>>>> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name,
>>>>> but it is not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public
>>>>> opinion but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated
>>>>> a private court event last week and surreptitiously taped her
>>>>> conversations with the justices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor,
>>>>> asserted that America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s
>>>>> role to lead it on a “moral path.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in
>>>>> charge of putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded.
>>>>> “That’s for people we elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He also
>>>>> disagreed that America is a Christian nation.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows
>>>>> that the court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the
>>>>> American people. You don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet liberal
>>>>> (and he’s far from it) to expect him and his colleagues to approach
>>>>> the nation’s most fraught legal disputes with fairness or at least
>>>>> with respect for the separation of church and state.
>>>>>
>>>>> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns.
>>>>> In response to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to
>>>>> keep fighting “to return our country to a place of godliness,” he
>>>>> said, “I agree with you. I agree with you.”
>>>>
>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader
>>>> who is the least bit religious.
>>>
>>> I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic
>>> judges like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.
>>
>> I am nt aware that Alito is a theocratic justice.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>>
>>>> And he is correct.
>>>
>>> What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.
>>
>> What he said is factual, and the battle plays out on a daily basis,
>>
>>>>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading
>>>>> culture warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude
>>>>> for religious claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole
>>>>> outside his house. Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out
>>>>> his worldview so bluntly — and to a woman he never met before. It
>>>>> shows an utter lack of regard for the court’s delicate posture of
>>>>> neutrality in the constitutional system and American society.
>>>>>
>>>>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing
>>>>> his sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now
>>>>> ascendant, writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down
>>>>> the right to abortion and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He
>>>>> is also in good company in the upper reaches of government. Recall
>>>>> that House Speaker Mike Johnson, an evangelical Christian, told an
>>>>> interviewer after he got the job, “Go pick up a Bible off your
>>>>> shelf and read it. That’s my worldview.”
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have
>>>>> fully ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises
>>>>> demanded by a pluralistic society when you can just impose your
>>>>> (and God’s) will by fiat? In that regard, this is really the Alito
>>>>> court.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas,
>>>>> too. They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we
>>>>> won't stand for it.
>>>>
>>>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
>>>
>>> Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking
>>> lavish gifts from people with business before the court, are the very
>>> epitome of corruption.
>>
>> You seem to be equating conservative wit religious.
>
> Alito is an ultra-conservative religious freak who wants to create a
> theocracy.

You do have a vivid imagination.

In article <m8ni6j12h0fc50pk8vrdsfisc244asc26b@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
> Why does it have to be a battle? Why is it always a war on something? Do you not have
> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>

Why? You don't.

In article <XnsB18F50B2516B5629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
> news:v6qdnfzm4pV24PT7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:
>
> > On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader
> >>> who is the least bit religious. I should think that you would
> >>> appreciate the fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
> >>
> >> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for
> >> secular law.
> >>
> >>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
> >>>
> >>> And he is correct.
> >>
> >> Why does it have to be a battle? Why is it always a war on
> >> something? Do you not have tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
> >
> > You tell me. It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways
> > upon the rest of us.
> >
> >
>
> You mean like how plain red coffee cups
> prove there is a "War on Christmas"?

You need help.

In article <v4cbf2$1mncl$1@dont-email.me>, j_carlson@gmx.com says...
>
> On 6/12/2024 3:52 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> > On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
> >> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
> >>> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
> >>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
> >>
> >> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for secular law.
> >>
> >>>> ?One side or the other is going to win,? he added.
> >>>
> >>> And he is correct.
> >>
> >> Why does it have to be a battle?  Why is it always a war on something?  Do you
> >> not have
> >> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
> >
> > You tell me.
>
> No, you tell us.
>
> > It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon the
> > rest of us.
>
> That's a lie. It is you knuckle-dragger sky fairy believers who are trying to
> force your ways on us, the decent people.

Like what? Tell us.

On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:59:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

>David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
>news:v6qdnfzm4pV24PT7nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader
>>>> who is the least bit religious. I should think that you would
>>>> appreciate the fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>>>
>>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for
>>> secular law.
>>>
>>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,â€? he added.
>>>>
>>>> And he is correct.
>>>
>>> Why does it have to be a battle? Why is it always a war on
>>> something? Do you not have tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>>
>> You tell me. It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways
>> upon the rest of us.
>>
>>
>
> You mean like how plain red coffee cups
>prove there is a "War on Christmas"?

Thank you.

Swill
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[Default] "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

>> It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon the
>> rest of us.
>
>That's a lie. It is you knuckle-dragger sky fairy believers who are trying to
>force your ways on us, the decent people.

Examples of Rudy's "decency"

The Impotent Canoza Violence File™
Over Sixty of Rudy's Hilarious Paper-Tigerisms
He's Feebly Squealed in Usenet
To The Amusement Of All

"You know I would demolish you in a fistfight."
-Rudy, in a final, desperate attempt to salvage his pride
after being pummeled senseless.
-Message-ID: <EfFpB.31818$xN2.24925@fx44.iad>

"I'm a few years beyond retirement age"
-Rudy, 4/19/2020

> What's next- a fist fight challenge"
Sure, why not? Meet me at the Jolly Kone hamburger shack in
Bakersfield. I've dispatched a couple of other Usenet loudmouth fat
fucks in the parking lot there. I know the proprietor. If it appears
you've already suffered your stroke, I'll only use one hand to flatten
you.
-Rudy, explaining his fantasy "fist-fight" victories.
-Message-ID: <U3SuB.25861$TD2.7598@fx18.iad>

"You still haven't recovered from the ass-kicking I gave you at the
Jolly Kone, have you? <chuckle>"
-Rudy Canoza to doctor postalman, 11/18/2017, referring to
another imaginary "fist fight"
-Message-ID: <hr%PB.10409$Fz6.2712@fx41.iad>

"I tell you what. I'm about eight inches shorter than Shitbag [6' 2"]
Trump, and at least 80 pounds lighter, and I would *love* to take the
fat fuck on in a fistfight. He gets to pick the *public* venue and
the referee."
-5' 6" Rudy, declaring his wish to fist-fight the President
of the United States, by posting on Usenet.
-Message-ID: <Xq8DB.451$Q03.210@fx44.iad>

>> Trumpchev is such a vile bit of filth.
> Why don't you challenge him to a fist fight?
I already have. It's legal, too. I even said he gets to pick the
referee and judges - not that they'll really have anything to do.
-A desperate Rudy, trying to claim his previous message was
where he "challenged President Trump to a fist fight."
-Message-ID: <bIc1C.305646$oE2.186205@fx33.iad>

You are fit for someone to slam a fist into your florid fat face.
-Rudy, losing another argument.
-Message-ID: <kB73D.209647$4M6.187820@fx27.iad>

I would gladly pay $2,000 for the privilege of beating your fucking
face to a pulp in person.
-Rudy, losing again
-Message-ID: <ire3D.198667$bJ2.1028@fx15.iad>

....kleine klauschen, a cunt whom I *have* beat up with my bare
hands...
- Rudy, dreaming
-Message-ID: <fewfF.255710$Yo.161912@fx08.iad>

"Rudy Canoza beat the living fuck out of me in the parking lot at
Jolly Kone burgers."
-Rudy, with another pathetic, impotent forgery
-Message-ID: <Rr5nF.88475$Sj1.38990@fx33.iad>

"On 10/23/2019 3:02 PM, kleine klausche, a runt punk whom I have
flattened, ineptly forged"
- Another desperate fantasy from Rudy.:

"I'd like to see some political violence aimed at *you*, you rancid
cunt."
-Rudy losing another argument.
-Message-ID: <KJC2F.238959$i84.232596@fx34.iad>

"I can kick your ass, and you know it. You're old, small, infirm and
weak - a fucking speck of dust."
-Another impotent boast from Usenet's Favorite Dwarf, Rudy
Canoza
-Message-ID: <lXqlG.35799$Us2.29588@fx07.iad>

"I'm bigger than you and I can kick your ass."
-Fire hydrant-sized Rudy, puffing his chest out as far as it
will go.
-Message-ID: <KhFlG.47294$2U3.6204@fx04.iad>

Fuck off and die, and give me your fucking address so I can come help
you do it.
-Our favorite dwarf, Rudy Canoza, coming out from under the
couch to bark.
-Message-ID: <oIGlG.2165$uE.343@fx24.iad>

No, you fucking lying midget whom I could flatten with *both* hands
tied behind my back
-Rudy Canoza, attempting to destroy everyone's irony meter by
calling someone else a "midget."
-Message-ID: <AcjoG.152881$Xk.112717@fx46.iad>

Fuck you and fuck every Hartung, and I hope you're all beaten to
death.
-Rudy losing another discussion
-Message-ID: <rf7116$16bu$4@neodome.net>

Read it and *weep*, Schild, you squat-to-piss fairy whom I can - and
*will* - strangle with my bare hands:
-Rudy, displaying his impotent rage and gynaphobia in one
sentence
Message-ID: <rgngn8$1fa3$1@neodome.net>

Your kind need to be marginalized, preferably exterminated.
-Rudy, wishing he wasn't impotent
-Message-ID: <vz%fH.342246$I15.96948@fx36.iad>

....if you're [sic] post your real name and address here, I'll gladly
come down and scatter your 73 brain cells in front of your nursing
home.
-Rudy,fantasizing about having the upper body strength to
beat a senior citizen.
-Message-ID: <kMTvH.5377$ev6.1691@fx14.iad>

"I'd have hauled you out back and shot you dead."
-Brave, brave Rudy, telling us what he would do to the
President if his White House Press Credentials were revoked.
-Message-ID: <s0v8v0$1v4e$1@neodome.net>

"You need to be shot dead."
-Rudy's usual response when someone out-argues him.
-Message-ID: <s0v8v0$1v4e$1@neodome.net>

I wish I knew where that shitbag cocksucker [Alan] Bond lives.
-Rudy wanting to suck off one of his Usenet opponents, apparently.
Message-ID: <s2ir4v$2ujc$2@neodome.net>

I'd have gotten a little longer sentence if I had ever got that close
to Trump, because in addition to slapping him in the face, I would
have kneed him in the groin as well. The fat fuck is still too
chickenshit to get into a fistfight with me.
-Rudy, wishing President Trump was aware of his existence, and that
he could bring his knee up that high.
Message-ID: <Nu7xI.46923$431.8742@fx39.iad>

Why can't we have a mass annihilation of Trumpswabs?
-Little Rudy, confessing his wish to commit suicide.
Message-ID: <AQKyI.98089$5%7.39466@fx13.iad>

The next time that neighbor attacks [Rand] Paul, I'm going to help
him.
-Rudy, threatening a U.S. Senator
-Message-ID: <%nfKI.326861$nc1.291868@fx12.ams1>

"I would really like to pump bullets into your head."
---Rudy as "Bill Flett" 1/22/18

"I can still kick your high-cholesterol hypertensive morbidly obese
ass."
-Rudy, still dreaming
-Message-ID: <WpjMI.981641$Uq8a.627809@fx02.ams1>

"If I came around you and yours, Jack-Off Skeeter Shit-4-Braincell
Lamey Pig-Fucker, you'd be begging through tears for me to spare your
life."
-Rudy, puffing out his sunken chest again
-Message-ID: <I7t2J.41909$2B4.26171@fx04.iad>

"You need to be depopulated."
- Gruppenfuhrer Canoza
Message-ID: <Okl3J.120840$rl3.60928@fx45.iad>

"I can't wait until you're strung up from a lamp post with barbed
wire."
-Rudy, waiting
Message-ID: <VF75J.44954$gc3.19974@fx12.iad>

"I'm striking a blow for decency and Christian love. You need to be
offed."
-Father Rudy
-Message-ID: <Rts6J.138409$lC6.84928@fx41.iad>

"Speaking for myself I'd dick slap you silly before I bent you over
and did a Deliverance dance in your
behind."
-Rudy, reliving his high school initiation
-Message-Id: <20211003.022149.af0b0d2c@mix1.remailer.xyz>

"If you don't start to show that you understand that black lives
matter, you will be corrected up with a baseball bat."
-Rudy, bring a bat to a gun fight.
-Message-ID: <TDSjJ.47486$VS2.3153@fx44.iad>

"I'll send right-wingnuts to hell. I'm more than ready for you
piss-ants."
-Brave, brave Rudy, gearing up
-Message-ID: <RV%lJ.28968$L_2.7207@fx04.iad>

You know I could kill you easily if we ever met.
-Rudy Canoza, dreaming again
-Message-ID: <QHCqJ.97446$Ql5.56564@fx39.iad>

Rightards always prate about "the melting pot," a lousy synonym for
assimilation, and consider it not merely a good thing, but a moral
imperative. So why don't Jews assimilate? Why is it you can watch an
episode of "Seinfeld" or "Curb Your Enthusiasm," and you simply know
you're watching Jews pushing their Jewness into your face? And why do
rightards excuse Jews' refusal to assimilate? If minorities are
supposed to assimilate, why does this not apply to Jews?
-Our little dwarf goose-stepper Rudy posting as "David Elsan"
Message-ID: <3oywJ.88435$JZ3.54851@fx05.iad>

I swear to fuck, someone needs to sneak into your nursing home and
strangle you in the middle of the night.
-Rudy Canoza, waiting for his testicles to drop.
Message-ID: <qFJBJ.197370$SW5.867@fx45.iad>

David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:NlOdnQMBA9HLLvT7nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On 6/12/24 09:30, J Carlson wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 3:52 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader
>>>>> who is the least bit religious. I should think that you would
>>>>> appreciate the
>>>>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>>>>
>>>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for
>>>> secular law.
>>>>
>>>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>>>
>>>>> And he is correct.
>>>>
>>>> Why does it have to be a battle?  Why is it always a war on
>>>> something?  Do you not have
>>>> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>>>
>>> You tell me.
>>
>> No, you tell us.
>>
>>> It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon the
>>> rest of us.
>>
>> That's a lie. It is you knuckle-dragger sky fairy believers who are
>> trying to force your ways on us, the decent people.
>
> We seem to have a different understanding of "decent people".

Who do you consider to be "decent people"?

David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote in
news:UPGcnZMhtMjkHvT7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com:

> On 6/11/24 16:53, J Carlson wrote:
>> On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
>>>> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s
>>>> name, but it is not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>>>>
>>>> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal
>>>> public opinion but in a recording released by a woman who had
>>>> infiltrated a private court event last week and surreptitiously
>>>> taped her conversations with the justices.
>>>>
>>>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor,
>>>> asserted that America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s
>>>> role to lead it on a “moral path.”
>>>>
>>>> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in
>>>> charge of putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded.
>>>> “That’s for people we elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He
>>>> also disagreed that America is a Christian nation.
>>>>
>>>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows
>>>> that the court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the
>>>> American people. You don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet
>>>> liberal (and he’s far from it) to expect him and his colleagues
>>>> to approach the nation’s most fraught legal disputes with
>>>> fairness or at least with respect for the separation of church and
>>>> state.
>>>>
>>>> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly
>>>> concerns. In response to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans
>>>> have to keep fighting “to return our country to a place of
>>>> godliness,” he said, “I agree with you. I agree with you.”
>>>
>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader
>>> who is the least bit religious.
>>
>> I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic
>> judges like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.
>
> I am nt aware that Alito is a theocratic justice.
>>
>>>
>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>
>>> And he is correct.
>>
>> What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.
>
> What he said is factual, and the battle plays out on a daily basis,
>
>>>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading
>>>> culture warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude
>>>> for religious claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole
>>>> outside his house. Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out
>>>> his worldview so bluntly — and to a woman he never met before. It
>>>> shows an utter lack of regard for the court’s delicate posture of
>>>> neutrality in the constitutional system and American society.
>>>>
>>>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing
>>>> his sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now
>>>> ascendant, writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down
>>>> the right to abortion and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He
>>>> is also in good company in the upper reaches of government. Recall
>>>> that House Speaker Mike Johnson, an evangelical Christian, told an
>>>> interviewer after he got the job, “Go pick up a Bible off your
>>>> shelf and read it. That’s my worldview.”
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have
>>>> fully ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises
>>>> demanded by a pluralistic society when you can just impose your
>>>> (and God’s) will by fiat? In that regard, this is really the
>>>> Alito court.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-relig
>>>> ion.html
>>>>
>>>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas,
>>>> too. They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we
>>>> won't stand for it.
>>>
>>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
>>
>> Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking
>> lavish gifts from people with business before the court, are the very
>> epitome of corruption.
>
> You seem to be equating conservative wit religious. Not all cultural
> and legal conservatives are religious, even you should see this.
>

What political conservatives are not religious?

On 6/12/2024 7:40 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/12/24 09:30, J Carlson wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 3:52 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 6/12/24 03:34, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 16:07:59 -0500, David Hartung <junk@nogood.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who
>>>>> is the least bit religious. I should think that you would appreciate the
>>>>> fact that Alito is open about his convictions.
>>>>
>>>> I have a problem with anybody who wants to substitute scripture for secular
>>>> law.
>>>>
>>>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>>>
>>>>> And he is correct.
>>>>
>>>> Why does it have to be a battle?  Why is it always a war on something?  Do
>>>> you not have
>>>> tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>>>
>>> You tell me.
>>
>> No, you tell us.
>>
>>> It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon the rest of us.
>>
>> That's a lie. It is you knuckle-dragger sky fairy believers who are trying to
>> force your ways on us, the decent people.
>
> We seem to have a different understanding of "decent people".

Mine is right and yours is wrong, and that's the end of it.

On 6/12/2024 7:44 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/12/24 09:41, J Carlson wrote:
>> On 6/12/2024 4:16 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 6/11/24 16:53, J Carlson wrote:
>>>> On 6/11/2024 2:07 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 6/11/24 11:31, J Carlson wrote:
>>>>>> Today’s Supreme Court may bear Chief Justice John Roberts’s name, but it
>>>>>> is not his court, nor has it been for many years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was demonstrated once again this week — not in a formal public
>>>>>> opinion but in a recording released by a woman who had infiltrated a
>>>>>> private court event last week and surreptitiously taped her conversations
>>>>>> with the justices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posing as a conservative Catholic, the woman, Lauren Windsor, asserted
>>>>>> that America is a Christian nation and it is the court’s role to lead it
>>>>>> on a “moral path.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roberts refused to take the bait. “Would you want me to be in charge of
>>>>>> putting the nation on a more moral path?” he responded. “That’s for people
>>>>>> we elect. That’s not for lawyers.” He also disagreed that America is a
>>>>>> Christian nation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was, of course, the easy and correct answer. Roberts knows that the
>>>>>> court’s legitimacy relies entirely on the trust of the American people.
>>>>>> You don’t have to wonder if he’s a closet liberal (and he’s far from it)
>>>>>> to expect him and his colleagues to approach the nation’s most fraught
>>>>>> legal disputes with fairness or at least with respect for the separation
>>>>>> of church and state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justice Samuel Alito can’t be bothered with such earthly concerns. In
>>>>>> response to Windsor’s claim that religious Americans have to keep fighting
>>>>>> “to return our country to a place of godliness,” he said, “I agree with
>>>>>> you. I agree with you.”
>>>>>
>>>>> You have long had a problem with any conservative political leader who is
>>>>> the least bit religious.
>>>>
>>>> I have, and all Americans should have, a huge problem with theocratic judges
>>>> like Alito. He is unfit to sit on the bench.
>>>
>>> I am nt aware that Alito is a theocratic justice.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> “One side or the other is going to win,” he added.
>>>>>
>>>>> And he is correct.
>>>>
>>>> What he said is trivially true, and not why he's unfit.
>>>
>>> What he said is factual, and the battle plays out on a daily basis,
>>>
>>>>>> In one sense, this is no surprise coming from the court’s leading culture
>>>>>> warrior. Alito has long made clear his special solicitude for religious
>>>>>> claims, whether before the court or on the flagpole outside his house.
>>>>>> Still, it should shock us to hear him lay out his worldview so bluntly —
>>>>>> and to a woman he never met before. It shows an utter lack of regard for
>>>>>> the court’s delicate posture of neutrality in the constitutional system
>>>>>> and American society.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a long time, Alito seemed like an outlier on the court, lobbing his
>>>>>> sour, grievance-filled dissents from the sidelines. He is now ascendant,
>>>>>> writing the lead opinion in the decision striking down the right to
>>>>>> abortion and many other precedent-breaking rulings. He is also in good
>>>>>> company in the upper reaches of government. Recall that House Speaker Mike
>>>>>> Johnson, an evangelical Christian, told an interviewer after he got the
>>>>>> job, “Go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it. That’s my worldview.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we should be grateful that these aspiring theocrats have fully
>>>>>> ripped off the mask. Why submit to the sinful compromises demanded by a
>>>>>> pluralistic society when you can just impose your (and God’s) will by
>>>>>> fiat? In that regard, this is really the Alito court.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/04/opinion/alito-roberts-court-religion.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time to get the thoroughly corrupt Alito off the court, and Thomas, too.
>>>>>> They are trying to turn the U.S.A. into a theocracy, and we won't stand
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Strong religious convictions do not equal corruption
>>>>
>>>> Religious convictions that masquerade as legal analysis, and taking lavish
>>>> gifts from people with business before the court, are the very epitome of
>>>> corruption.
>>>
>>> You seem to be equating conservative wit religious.
>>
>> Alito is an ultra-conservative religious freak who wants to create a theocracy.
>
> You do have a vivid imagination.

I have the facts, you lying troll.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> What political conservatives are not religious?

There many religions. Mammon, Satan, et al.

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Siri Cruise wrote:
> David Hartung wrote:
>>>
>>> Why does it have to be a battle? Why is it always a war on something? Do
>>> you not have tolerance or compassion for your fellows?
>>
>> You tell me. It is the secular left who is trying to force their ways upon
>> the rest of us.
>
> And it is the Satanic Right with their mammon worship

Document or retract, you unrepentant faggot.

> who this time seducing the people with delusions of political power
> after failing to tempt to Jesus. Jesus told Pilate he had no kingdom
> in this world.

Christians are not prohibited from having political power, you unrepentant
faggot.

> This world is a tiny place. Jesus offers so much more.
>
> What kind of god has to hide behind humans to fight his wars?

You're not a follower of Jesus Christ, you unrepentant faggot.