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Subject: Re: How is it that using a VPN your ISP still knows exactly how much data you used?
From: Anonymous
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:40 UTC
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2022 15:40:15 +0000
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danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

SNIPP
>
> To answer the original poster's question, most VPNs
> simply slip your traffic through the connection,
> so aside from some misc overhead, the ISP sees
> the number of packets, etc.
>
> Note that _some_ of the more enlighted ones
> will add in semi randomized additional packets
> so as to confuse anyone trying to traffic analysis,
> but that's NOT a standard consumer offiering.
>

Which VPNs add some data ?

Subject: Re: How is it that using a VPN your ISP still knows exactly how much data you used?
From: danny burstein
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Subject: Re: How is it that using a VPN your ISP still knows exactly how much data you used?
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In <20221106.154015.bd50035d@yamn.paranoici.org> Anonymous <nobody@yamn.paranoici.org> writes:

[snip]
>> Note that _some_ of the more enlighted ones
>> will add in semi randomized additional packets
>> so as to confuse anyone trying to traffic analysis,
>> but that's NOT a standard consumer offiering.

> Which VPNs add some data ?

Afraid the one I was using was a proprietray
"in house", but I'm guessing (which might have
been premature...) that some commercial ones
would have it, too.

Of course, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be
the first time...

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Subject	Author
Re: How is it that using a VPN your ISP still knows exactly how much data you us	Anonymous
Re: How is it that using a VPN your ISP still knows exactly how much data you us	danny burstein