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* Blasphemy DayDavid Dalton
+- Re: Blasphemy DayJan Poulsen
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 `* Re: Blasphemy DayBob Casanova
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Subject: Blasphemy Day
From: David Dalton
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:39 UTC
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
criminalized in many countries”.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
From: Jan Poulsen
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On 30/09/2024 01.39, David Dalton wrote:
> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
> criminalized in many countries”.
>

Blasphemy: A law to protect an all-powerful, supernatural deity from
getting its feelings hurt -- Ricky Gervais

--
Jan Poulsen

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
From: sora
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David Dalton wrote:
> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
> criminalized in many countries”.
>

religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
relevant.

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
From: Bob Casanova
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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:

>David Dalton wrote:
>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>
>
>
>religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>relevant.
>
Relevant to what?
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
From: shogun
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Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>
>> David Dalton wrote:
>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>
>>
>>
>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>> relevant.
>>
> Relevant to what?

relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
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shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:

> Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>
>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>> relevant.
>>>
>> Relevant to what?
>
>
> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
many other places as well.
-Don-

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
From: Bob Casanova
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On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
<djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:

>shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>
>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>> relevant.
>>>>
>>> Relevant to what?
>>
>>
>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>
>It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>many other places as well.
>
Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
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Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>
>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>
>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>
>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>
>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>
>>>
>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>
>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>> many other places as well.
>>
> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>

i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:59:04 +0000, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:

>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
>> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>>
>>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>>
>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>>
>>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>>> many other places as well.
>>>
>> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
>> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
>> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>>
>
>
>i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
>the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
>benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.
>
There was no need to confirm what I wrote; I already knew I
was correct.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:59:04 +0000, the following appeared in
> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
>>> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>>>
>>>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>>>
>>>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>>>> many other places as well.
>>>>
>>> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
>>> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
>>> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>>>
>>
>>
>> i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
>> the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
>> benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.
>>
> There was no need to confirm what I wrote; I already knew I
> was correct.

nice. so are you a pious person?

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:06:06 +0000, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:

>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:59:04 +0000, the following appeared in
>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>
>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
>>>> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>>>>
>>>>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>>>>> many other places as well.
>>>>>
>>>> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
>>>> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
>>>> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
>>> the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
>>> benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.
>>>
>> There was no need to confirm what I wrote; I already knew I
>> was correct.
>
>
>nice. so are you a pious person?
>
Why do you ask? It wouldn't affect the accuracy of my
comment either way.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
From: shogun
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Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:06:06 +0000, the following appeared in
> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:59:04 +0000, the following appeared in
>>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>
>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
>>>>> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>>>>>> many other places as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
>>>>> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
>>>>> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
>>>> the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
>>>> benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.
>>>>
>>> There was no need to confirm what I wrote; I already knew I
>>> was correct.
>>
>>
>> nice. so are you a pious person?
>>
> Why do you ask? It wouldn't affect the accuracy of my
> comment either way.

i have no qualms with its accuracy. i am curious and want to know
the kind of views believers and non-believers espouse.

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:00:25 +0000, the following appeared in
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>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:06:06 +0000, the following appeared in
>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>
>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:59:04 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>
>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
>>>>>> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>>>>>>> many other places as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
>>>>>> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
>>>>>> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
>>>>> the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
>>>>> benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.
>>>>>
>>>> There was no need to confirm what I wrote; I already knew I
>>>> was correct.
>>>
>>>
>>> nice. so are you a pious person?
>>>
>> Why do you ask? It wouldn't affect the accuracy of my
>> comment either way.
>
>
>i have no qualms with its accuracy. i am curious and want to know
>the kind of views believers and non-believers espouse.
>
Hopefully, both "espouse" the same reality, the facts of
which are not subject to belief or disbelief.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
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Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:00:25 +0000, the following appeared in
> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>
>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:06:06 +0000, the following appeared in
>>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>
>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:59:04 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
>>>>>>> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>>>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>>>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>>>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>>>>>>>> many other places as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
>>>>>>> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
>>>>>>> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
>>>>>> the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
>>>>>> benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.
>>>>>>
>>>>> There was no need to confirm what I wrote; I already knew I
>>>>> was correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> nice. so are you a pious person?
>>>>
>>> Why do you ask? It wouldn't affect the accuracy of my
>>> comment either way.
>>
>>
>> i have no qualms with its accuracy. i am curious and want to know
>> the kind of views believers and non-believers espouse.
>>
> Hopefully, both "espouse" the same reality, the facts of
> which are not subject to belief or disbelief.

that's a nice dream.

Subject: Re: Blasphemy Day
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On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:45:56 +0000, the following appeared in
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>Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:00:25 +0000, the following appeared in
>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>
>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 02:06:06 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>
>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 16:59:04 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by shogun <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:08:20 -0700, the following appeared
>>>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by Don_from_AZ
>>>>>>>> <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> shogun <f00@0f0.00f> writes:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bob Casanova wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:16:28 +0000, the following appeared in
>>>>>>>>>>> sci.skeptic, posted by sora <f00@0f0.00f>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sept. 30 is Blasphemy Day, which from Wikipedia “educates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals and groups about blasphemy laws and defends freedom
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of expression, especially the open criticism of religion which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminalized in many countries”.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> religion from 2k or 1k or 200 or even 50 years ago is no longer
>>>>>>>>>>>> relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Relevant to what?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> relevant to helping people navigate life in 2020s and post.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's relevant if you live anywhere in the Islamic controlled world, and
>>>>>>>>> many other places as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep. The answer to which you replied is hopelessly
>>>>>>>> parochial; "it's irrelevant to my immediate social circle,
>>>>>>>> therefore it's irrelevant for everyone and everywhere".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i would regard religious people as fundamentally wrong, being on
>>>>>>> the wrong side of history. being wrong also means it provides no
>>>>>>> benefit to its adherents. they are choosing to become obsolete.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was no need to confirm what I wrote; I already knew I
>>>>>> was correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> nice. so are you a pious person?
>>>>>
>>>> Why do you ask? It wouldn't affect the accuracy of my
>>>> comment either way.
>>>
>>>
>>> i have no qualms with its accuracy. i am curious and want to know
>>> the kind of views believers and non-believers espouse.
>>>
>> Hopefully, both "espouse" the same reality, the facts of
>> which are not subject to belief or disbelief.
>
>
>that's a nice dream.
>
Isn't it, though?

Have a nice day, and try to expand beyond your parochialism
WRT the relevance of religion; the world isn't identical to
your social circle.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

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