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* National Day of ReasonDavid Dalton
+* Re: National Day of ReasonDawn Flood
|`* Re: National Day of ReasonMitchell Holman
| `* Re: National Day of ReasonDawn Flood
|  `* Re: National Day of ReasonKerr-Mudd, John
|   `- Re: National Day of ReasonDawn Flood
+- Re: National Day of Reasonlef
`- Re: National Day of ReasonBorax Man

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Subject: National Day of Reason
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: National Day of Reason
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From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):

The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.

Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her head to
find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (Sarah McLachlan)

Subject: Re: National Day of Reason
From: Dawn Flood
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From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com (Dawn Flood)
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On 5/1/2024 10:08 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):
>
> The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
> atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
> annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
> observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
> which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.
>
> Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024
>

I signed the FFRF petition. Give it another century, especially, after
people are arguing over whether the State of Florida should be regarded
as being part of the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico.

Dawn

Subject: Re: National Day of Reason
From: Mitchell Holman
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Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:v0vqqi$3q5vp$1@dont-
email.me:

> On 5/1/2024 10:08 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>> From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):
>>
>> The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
>> atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
>> annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
>> observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
>> which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.
>>
>> Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024
>>
>
> I signed the FFRF petition. Give it another century, especially, after
> people are arguing over whether the State of Florida should be regarded
> as being part of the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico.

The bigger question is whether it is
part of 12th or 14th century.

Florida school district pulls dictionaries
and encyclopedias as part of "inappropriate"
content review
January 12, 2024

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-school-district-pulls-dictionaries-
and-encyclopedias-as-part-of-sexual-or-inappropriate-content-review/

Subject: Re: National Day of Reason
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On 5/2/24 06:08, David Dalton wrote:

> From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):
>
> The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
> atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
> annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
> observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
> which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.
>
> Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024
>

can materialists celebrate on this day

Subject: Re: National Day of Reason
From: Dawn Flood
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On 5/2/2024 7:53 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:v0vqqi$3q5vp$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> On 5/1/2024 10:08 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>>> From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):
>>>
>>> The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
>>> atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
>>> annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
>>> observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
>>> which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.
>>>
>>> Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024
>>>
>>
>> I signed the FFRF petition. Give it another century, especially, after
>> people are arguing over whether the State of Florida should be regarded
>> as being part of the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico.
>
>
> The bigger question is whether it is
> part of 12th or 14th century.
>
>
>
>
> Florida school district pulls dictionaries
> and encyclopedias as part of "inappropriate"
> content review
> January 12, 2024
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-school-district-pulls-dictionaries-
> and-encyclopedias-as-part-of-sexual-or-inappropriate-content-review/
>
>

Let's see them pull "the Internet".

Dawn

Subject: Re: National Day of Reason
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On Fri, 3 May 2024 00:02:18 -0500
Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/2/2024 7:53 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> > Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:v0vqqi$3q5vp$1@dont-
> > email.me:
> >
> >> On 5/1/2024 10:08 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> >>> From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):
> >>>
> >>> The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
> >>> atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
> >>> annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
> >>> observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
> >>> which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.
> >>>
> >>> Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024
> >>>
> >>
> >> I signed the FFRF petition. Give it another century, especially, after
> >> people are arguing over whether the State of Florida should be regarded
> >> as being part of the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico.
> >
> >
> > The bigger question is whether it is
> > part of 12th or 14th century.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Florida school district pulls dictionaries
> > and encyclopedias as part of "inappropriate"
> > content review
> > January 12, 2024
> >
> > https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-school-district-pulls-dictionaries-
> > and-encyclopedias-as-part-of-sexual-or-inappropriate-content-review/
> >
> >
>
> Let's see them pull "the Internet".
>
It's easy, ask the government in China.

--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

Subject: Re: National Day of Reason
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On 5/3/2024 4:09 AM, Kerr-Mudd, John wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 2024 00:02:18 -0500
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/2/2024 7:53 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:v0vqqi$3q5vp$1@dont-
>>> email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 5/1/2024 10:08 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>> From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):
>>>>>
>>>>> The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
>>>>> atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
>>>>> annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
>>>>> observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
>>>>> which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.
>>>>>
>>>>> Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I signed the FFRF petition. Give it another century, especially, after
>>>> people are arguing over whether the State of Florida should be regarded
>>>> as being part of the Atlantic Ocean or the Gulf of Mexico.
>>>
>>>
>>> The bigger question is whether it is
>>> part of 12th or 14th century.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Florida school district pulls dictionaries
>>> and encyclopedias as part of "inappropriate"
>>> content review
>>> January 12, 2024
>>>
>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-school-district-pulls-dictionaries-
>>> and-encyclopedias-as-part-of-sexual-or-inappropriate-content-review/
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Let's see them pull "the Internet".
>>
> It's easy, ask the government in China.
>

The Great Firewall leaks worse than a sieve. Here's one answer:

https://www.torproject.org/

After the Catholic Church's persecution of Galileo Galilei, the
Renaissance moved north, eventually leaving Italy. States like Florida
can ban whatever they want to ban, but enterprising young people can
always go online and read whatever they want. For instance, the New
York Public Library is offering a free digital library to any student in
the United States:

https://www.bklynlibrary.org/books-unbanned

Dawn

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On Thu, 02 May 2024 00:38:36 -0230
David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> wrote:

> From a Google margin box (from Wikipedia?):
>
> The National Day of Reason is a secular celebration for humanists,
> atheists, secularists, and freethinkers. The day is celebrated
> annually on the first Thursday in May, in response to the statutory
> observance of a National Day of Prayer in the United States,
> which many atheist and secular groups deem unconstitutional.
>
> Date:Thursday, May 2, 2024
>
> --
> David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
> https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> “Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her head to
> find herself faded a shadow of what she once was" (Sarah McLachlan)
>

People who use "reason" can be as bad as religious fundamentalists.
"Reason" leads to evil, when based on false assumptions, or hubris.

We need to account for that which isn't quantified, that which is
qualitative, unknown. Leading by reason leads men astray as they
are led to believe that data is everything and means everything.
This results in a technocracy.

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