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Subject: United Nations Day
From: David Dalton
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Subject: United Nations Day
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October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.

It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

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Subject: Re: United Nations Day
From: David Dalton
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: Re: United Nations Day
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On Oct 24, 2023, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2AE7789E005B1A65700008EA738F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
> of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.
>
> It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
> or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
> at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)

I think it is also about the same phase as Yom Kippur,
the Jewish Day of Atonement, though not the same
lunar month.

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Subject: Re: United Nations Day
From: David Dalton
Newsgroups: alt.politics.org.un, alt.politics.international, talk.politics.misc, soc.rights.human, alt.activism, alt.atheism
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:38 UTC
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From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton)
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Subject: Re: United Nations Day
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On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
(in article<uQydne_Ed4WY7Kr4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>):

> On 10/24/23 12:31 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
> > (in article<3hCdnStjh9R42ar4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
> >
> > > On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
> > > > of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.
> > > >
> > > > It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
> > > > or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
> > > > at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)
> > >
> > > The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
> > > people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
> > > maniacs and fanatics.
> > >
> > > It should be disbanded instantly for the good
> > > of humanity.
> > >
> > > The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
> > > interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....
> > >
> > > As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
> > > Nothing to do with a "UN".
> > >
> > > The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
> > > the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
> > > of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
> > > to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
> > > ideas" .....
> >
> > I think there may be a way to repair the UN rather than
> > trashing it.
>
> Start listing ... it's PAST time. Make sure it
> can actually WORK when a large percentage are
> dictators/depots/maniacs.
>
> There IS a "better way", something that's actually
> better for The People, everywhere. The USA model
> is very good, but maybe not the ONLY paradigm that
> has to be included.
>
> Alas, for now, we're stuck with a UN that seems
> very little concerned with serious, genocidal,
> terrorism and instead dwells on issues that
> PREVENT dealing with terrorism/terrorists/
> genocidalidalists.
>
> People SORT OF get options in picking/guiding
> their leaders. Gaza ... well ... they put all
> their money behind Hamas/terrorism. This has
> been the case for a LONG TIME. As such, I feel
> they are COMPLICIT in whatever Hamas might do.
>
> Hamas has been terroristic for DECADES. It was
> the reason "IronDome" was developed. Death To
> All Jews is their mantra.
>
> Hamas doesn't give a fucking shit what happens
> to their 'citizens' beyond the propaganda
> possibilities. This is NOT a good thing. Now
> it's all gone very very bad. Thousands, maybe
> tens of thousands, of their "citizens" are
> about to die because of Hamas fanaticism.

Perhaps get rid of the Security Council and their vetos
for starters.

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create an oasis; Dries up as soon as you're gone; You leave me
here burning in this desert without you" (Sarah McLachlan)

Subject: Re: United Nations Day
From: 56d.1152
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On 10/24/23 3:38 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
> (in article<uQydne_Ed4WY7Kr4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
>
>> On 10/24/23 12:31 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 2023, 56d.1152 wrote
>>> (in article<3hCdnStjh9R42ar4nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com>):
>>>
>>>> On 10/23/23 11:59 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>> October 24, 2023 is United Nations Day, the anniversary
>>>>> of the official creation of the United Nations in 1945.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is also Vijayadashami, also known as Dussehra, Dasara
>>>>> or Dashain, a major Hindu festival celebrated every year
>>>>> at the end of Navaratri. (from Wikipedia)
>>>>
>>>> The UN is now run by the exact OPPOSITE kinds of
>>>> people who founded it. Naught but - despots, dictators,
>>>> maniacs and fanatics.
>>>>
>>>> It should be disbanded instantly for the good
>>>> of humanity.
>>>>
>>>> The old NYC site - sell it for condos of "historical
>>>> interest" ... oughtta bring in some tax money .....
>>>>
>>>> As for the Hindu angle ... don't really see it.
>>>> Nothing to do with a "UN".
>>>>
>>>> The old League Of Nations went to hell before WW2.
>>>> the UN has now also gone to hell. A different sort
>>>> of paradigm for "international opinion/action" needs
>>>> to be developed. Less "authority" and more "good
>>>> ideas" .....
>>>
>>> I think there may be a way to repair the UN rather than
>>> trashing it.
>>
>> Start listing ... it's PAST time. Make sure it
>> can actually WORK when a large percentage are
>> dictators/depots/maniacs.
>>
>> There IS a "better way", something that's actually
>> better for The People, everywhere. The USA model
>> is very good, but maybe not the ONLY paradigm that
>> has to be included.
>>
>> Alas, for now, we're stuck with a UN that seems
>> very little concerned with serious, genocidal,
>> terrorism and instead dwells on issues that
>> PREVENT dealing with terrorism/terrorists/
>> genocidalidalists.
>>
>> People SORT OF get options in picking/guiding
>> their leaders. Gaza ... well ... they put all
>> their money behind Hamas/terrorism. This has
>> been the case for a LONG TIME. As such, I feel
>> they are COMPLICIT in whatever Hamas might do.
>>
>> Hamas has been terroristic for DECADES. It was
>> the reason "IronDome" was developed. Death To
>> All Jews is their mantra.
>>
>> Hamas doesn't give a fucking shit what happens
>> to their 'citizens' beyond the propaganda
>> possibilities. This is NOT a good thing. Now
>> it's all gone very very bad. Thousands, maybe
>> tens of thousands, of their "citizens" are
>> about to die because of Hamas fanaticism.
>
> Perhaps get rid of the Security Council and their vetos
> for starters.

The "Security Council" is a cold-war artifact for
the most part, "elitist" too. Russia wouldn't play
if it could not block the USA and vice-versa.

However the general membership is pretty damned bad
of late - far too many countries run by the worst of
the worst and/or those just hoping to scam some cash
by making customized UN edicts.

IMHO, it does not serve its intended purpose. Never
really did, at least not well. Now - flush it.

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